On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:19:58 +0200, Mathias Rösel wrote
> > Paris Ms. Fonds Conservatoire National Rés. 1106 has another marking on
> it's
> > front page: R 1575 (41035)
> > 
> > David - one down, one to go
> 
> Thank you, David! I only have the xeroxes. The other one possibly is 
> Paris BN Vm7-6265. 86 pages, many concordances with Saizenay, some 
> of them deviating, two concordances with R 1575 (Rés. 1106). Two 
> courantes for the baroque lute on the last two pages (La belle 
> homicide by Gaultier, and one by Dubut par. Barbe p. 43). and the D-
> major section was wrongly inserted before the ms. was page-numbered, 
> now dividing an allemande by LeMoine (p. 46-7 and p. 57). Perhaps 
> these data will do to identify the manuscript?

So, now that we seem to have traced down what manuscripts you are
refering to, would you mind to elaborate a bit about

> Paris BN 1575 and BN 25391 are two theorbo mss. that abound with
> music by de Visee. Some concordances with Saizenay, but both mss.
> seem to be much earlier than 1699 and earlier than 1680, I'd say.
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the reference at http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/C18/1700.html
gives the following:

 F:Pn Ms. Rés. Vm7 6265 [c1700]
    [RISM B/VII p. 265; SMT I p. 152]
        * 11-course in French tablature
        * 14-course theorbo in French tablature

 F:Pn Ms. Rés. 1106 [1725-1730]
    [RISM B/VII p. 271; SMT I p. 82]
        * 14-course theorbo in French tablature

 
now, that's 20-50 years of your dating (and that of the earliest
De Visee guitar publication).

 Cheers, Ralf Mattes

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R. Mattes -
Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg
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