Jonathan,

I agree with you concerning Win.net.  They are great people but with  
the competition as it is
I don't know how the independent ISP's are going to survive.  My best  
friend (yes, I have ONE) owns
and ISP and they have laid off all the employees, the family members  
have had to get other employment
and what used to be a large staff is now down to two people.  What a  
shame that a several million dollar
business is now just a shell.

John R.


On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote:

> I myself just switched to Insight from the rag-tag bundle of wires
> that I had entering my household before. I had Dish for TV, BellSouth
> for two phone lines and Win.net for DSL. I love Win.net, especially
> for the fact that all their employees speak English as a first
> language, but BellSouth kept them from selling the good stuff. I just
> couldn't afford a T1 for $300 a month and that was the only way for
> me to get faster service from them.
>
> Insight is at least four times as fast, I get free long distance and
> all the channels (pretty much) I had with Dish. But here's the best
> part: I pay about $80 less a month than what I had before. We'll see
> what their service looks like after a few months, but the installer
> was in and out in a jiffy (including a couple trips into my scary
> crawl-space), knew exactly what to do and did a great job. There are
> no on-screen info options like with Dish, but the channels are almost
> the same, the phones sound exactly the same and my internet
> connection is wonderful!
>
> All that and less money. What's not to love!?
>
> Well, except that my wife had to be dragged kicking and screaming to
> the C-J TV sheet. Hmmm, maybe she'd like TV Guide online...
>
> j.
>
> p.s. and I feel really bad for Win.net, too.
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:26 PM, "R. D. Preston"
> <preston.r.d at insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:29:55 -0400
>> From: "R. D. Preston" <preston.r.d at insightbb.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insult Broadband
>> To: Macintosh topics <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu>
>> Message-ID: <44AC509F-0A65-4AF8-BEB5-D18F5A45773E at insightbb.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not qualified?  I think that means one primary thing:
>>   You are probably up against the BellSouth/AT&T
>>   phone service territorial strangle hold on local area
>>   providers.  I had to deal with their nonsense for over
>>   a month before I canceled.
>>   A different issue, but still a brick wall.  And a full
>>   month after I reached that frustration point, I got a
>>   followup call from them asking me to reconsider
>>   and "come back" for their "World Class" service.
>>    HA!  No way.
>> I'm now using InsightBB and like it muchly bunches,
>>   except for the $40 a month thing...
>>
>> Russ Preston
>>
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2007, at 6:29 PM, RobK wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, I've heard plenty of horror stories about Comcast, here's
>>> another
>>> one for the PSC to ponder.
>>>
>>> However, from what I hear about Insight, they've been pretty
>>> reliable.
>>> Most of my family has it and haven't had any problems, with the
>>> exception of the 3-day missing email fiasco.
>>>
>>> My problem is that I'm very near the DSL limit. My speed fluctuates
>>> with
>>> bursts up to 105, but it mostly sits around 80 or so. And I'm
>>> supposed
>>> to have a 1.5 line. So I called my ISP and asked them about their
>>> "Extreme DSL" and surprise! I'm not qualified for it.
>>>
>>> So I either have to bite the bullet with Insult or move closer to
>>> the CO.
>>>
>>> And believe it or not, I'm leaning more toward moving now.
>>>
>>> b3studios wrote:
>>>
>>>> Think Insights bad (they are...)?
>>>> I just moved back to Michigan and had to go back with Comcast to  
>>>> get
>>>> decent internet speeds.
>>>> Now, Comcast is really a pain in the... well you get the idea.
>>>>
>>>> Once I finally had the guy come out, it took forever to get it
>>>> set up
>>>> because I'm on a Mac. Finally, I had to beg him to let me just do
>>>> the
>>>> set up part and he could phone in the numbers to HQ.
>>>>
>>>> After that everything was great, for a while. It seems that Comcast
>>>> is spotty when you are using a router (3 laptops in the house,  
>>>> so we
>>>> are). Have to periodically (every few days or so) turn off the
>>>> airport express and the modem for about 30sec and then turn them
>>>> back
>>>> on, or no internet connection.
>>>> This is with no changing of hardware or settings.
>>>>
>>>> Once, about a week after hook up we were getting no internet  
>>>> service
>>>> (the modem wasn't connecting). The next door neighbors (who use
>>>> insight) had a working signal. I know this because I could
>>>> connect to
>>>> their wireless network.
>>>>
>>>> I call Comcast and keep getting put on hold by an automated system
>>>> that tells me that my call is very important to them, all the while
>>>> I'm listening to commercials for... wait for it... Comcast High-
>>>> Speed
>>>> internet. After almost 20 min, a recording comes on and tells me
>>>> that
>>>> there is an outage in the whole area and to call back later, then
>>>> HANGS UP ON ME.
>>>>
>>>> I was extremely angry and called back, finally got someone on the
>>>> phone, they said a tech could be out next week to check it out, and
>>>> the that problem was obviously something I had done to my set up.
>>>>
>>>> I changed nothing, and a day later noticed that my modem was
>>>> connecting and everything was fine.
>>>>
>>>> I hate these big companies that have what seems to be a monopoly on
>>>> high-speed internet access.
>>>> Couple that with the fact that Comcast is now limiting their
>>>> "Unlimited" High-Speed Access, etc...
>>>>
>>>> erg...
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with Insight though, I had much less problems with them.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2007, at 8:12 PM, RobK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So I decided to make the big jump. The Dish is disconnected which
>>>>> means
>>>>> I can lose the landline phone. And since I can't get any decent
>>>>> speed
>>>>> from my too-far-away-from-the-CO-DSL, I decided to make the  
>>>>> jump to
>>>>> Insight cable.
>>>>>
>>>>> I signed up online, got the confirmation which said it would run
>>>>> $40 per
>>>>> month with a $10 installation and a $39.99 modem fee. This is
>>>>> apparently
>>>>> an Internet special which expired Sunday (I signed up on Friday).
>>>>>
>>>>> I get the call to set up the install and I'm now told the
>>>>> installation
>>>>> is $39.99, not $10. So I "discussed" this with the caller until I
>>>>> realize she is working for the order-taking company. So I call
>>>>> Insight
>>>>> and explain that I have a confirmation for a $10 installation
>>>>> and am
>>>>> told once again that the installation will be $40 because they
>>>>> "have to
>>>>> roll a truck." When I point out that this is Insight's problem
>>>>> and I
>>>>> have a confirmation for a $10 install, I'm told that they will not
>>>>> honor
>>>>> the agreement.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I ask for a supervisor. After a few minutes, my guy comes back
>>>>> on the
>>>>> line and tells me that if my mysterious credit ranking is above a
>>>>> certain level, they'll honor the $10 install. At this point I
>>>>> realized
>>>>> where this was going and gracefully ended the call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone got any contacts with Insight?
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Fletcher
> jfletch at newmediaconstco.com
> Project Foreman
> NewMedia Construction Co.
>
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