Yeah interesting, Tha’ts a pain in the ass,
I just fgave it a try and the lwer case when should be numbers is a problem. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2019 3:56 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2 Hi, If you have Handwriting enabled in your rotor, then you are able to enter your pass-code using handwriting on your iPhone/iPad screen. When the pass-code is up, twist your rotor once to the right, then enter the numbers on the screen as if you were printing them. this is actually a very secure way of entering the pass-code in public situations as the numbers are not announced aloud like they are when entering them in the normal way. Now, all this being said, Apple needs to fix the handwriting feature right now as well due to the fact that it defaults to lower case instead of numbers when the pass-code is ready to be entered. Swipe down with three fingers twice to change from lower case to numbers. Again, this is just a workaround, and Apple does need to fix the sound loss problem, as well as the handwriting silliness, but it does make it possible for a blind user to do things in multiple ways. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 16, 2019, at 08:20, João de Sousa e Silva <joao65...@gmail.com<mailto:joao65...@gmail.com>> wrote: Probably even with a Mac. The passcode is required to allow the Mac OS to manage the phone. This is too serious. I can imagine some friend getting in serious troubles in an event like that outside. Call Apple and let them know, please. Às 14:35 de 16/10/2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries escreveu: Hi, Do you have a Mac? If so, you could restore from iTunes or from the Finder in Catalina. If not, I believe that you'll need sighted assistance. A simple restart might do the trick, but if that doesn't cut it, then a restore should, but of course you'll need to have sighted assistance if you can't get VO going. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 16, 2019, at 06:49, Tom Moore <tommym2...@gmail.com<mailto:tommym2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi guys, Something serious going on here. After the loss of Voice Over audio when turning on the phone I placed a call to the phone and was able to get audio back during the life of the call. When I hung up the Voice Over audio was gone again. After resetting all settings to defaults audio is gone for good and I can not even turn on voice over or answer the incoming call. I am unsure how I am going to get myself out of this one at this point. Tom From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Loy Green Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:53 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2 IOS 13.1.3 came out today, but no mention in the release notes about the sound loss issues in IOS 13.1.2 ----- Original Message ----- From: João de Sousa e Silva<mailto:joao65...@gmail.com> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:41 AM Subject: Re: sound loss in iOS 13.1.2 Should be hard to replicate, otherwise probably it would be already on the go to a fix. The Apple advisor refused the logs from my phone… Às 16:02 de 15/10/2019, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries escreveu: Hi, There must be some combination of settings that is causing this for those of you who experience it more than others. I did some testing this morning, and could not replicate the problem while using the iPhone without headphones. I made numerous outgoing calls, disconnected the call myself first, disconnected it first from the other phone, tried to disconnect simultaneously, all with no loss of sound. I thought that maybe since speaker routing was possibly a factor, I did the same while on speaker phone. Still no loss of sound. I tried the same scenarios on an a number of incoming calls and still did not lose sound. Again, since audio routing may be a factor, I enabled the "Auto-Detect Speaker In Call" feature under Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio. I still did not lose sound after ending the call in all the ways mentioned above. I did not try again with headphones on, but I was attempting to replicate the issue as others have explained it. I just must be bloody lucky right now as I'm not experiencing this problem and I certainly would find it frustrating, maybe even exasperating if I did have it happen as often as others have reported. I guess I'll just hope that the big boys at Apple figure it out soon so that this can be eliminated. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 15, 2019, at 08:36, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: Hi! I have the XR and I only have some issues when unlocking the phone. But its not a big one. /A 14 okt. 2019 kl. 23:02 skrev Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com<mailto:philh...@gmail.com>>: Are people having this sound loss problem only when making a call? 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