A peltier is used mostly in electronics applications and most good
electronics shops stock them. It's effectively a heat pump shaped like a
plate, you feed it some current and one side gets cold and the other side
gets warm (thats where the cooling fan comes in) the only thing is that I
believe if you allow the hot side to get too hot it cooks itself. I guess
you would coil the fuel line round the cold plate and insulate the whole
thing since it would be well below ambient. Read up on the principle if
your interested at
http://www.electronics-cooling.com/Resources/EC_Articles/SEP96/sep96_04.htm
- Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geordie Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> What's a Peltier device?
>
> I dunno... If cold fuel became an issue on my car and the best solution
> would be to chill the fuel then I'd buy a 12v mini fridge from k-mart for
> $150 and pull it to bits.. No worrys! :)
>
> What's the freezing temperature of fuel?
>
> How cold is too cold?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > Are you talking those peltier devices? They may work depending on how
hot
> > the fuel gets (need to reject the heat) but if you had a cooling
> > fan or the
> > like ... you could end up with very cold fuel.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Geordie Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:47:45 +1000
> > >
> > >I would imagine that it wouldn't be hard to rig up one of those 12 volt
> > >mini
> > >fridge condensors and attach it to a surge tank and chill the fuel in
> > >that?!?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 2:05 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you hear that Farari got caught chilling their fuel for
> > Monza at the
> > > > weekend - will Michael lose the points? McLaren are not happy
> > about it
> > >for
> > > > some reason.
> > > >
> > > > terry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad
HALLETT
> > > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2000 11:06 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mate of mine just built a burnout car, and they have a 'chilly
> > > > bin' between
> > > > the surge tank and the fuel rail. It is an aluminium box,
> > with a copper
> > > > coil through the middle. Fuel goes through the copper coil, and
they
> > >fill
> > > > the box with ice before a run, ensuring very cold fuel. I must
> > > > play with my
> > > > 12V Engel to see if I can rig up a permanent solution!!!
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Brad HALLETT
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol
Smith
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pete,
> > > > Run a restrictor in the return line to the tank and a good Hi Flow
LP
> > > > supply pump. There is no reason you would have a problem on the
> > > > hottest day
> > > > with this setup.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Feral Errol.
> > > > S13 SR20DE Race Car (KB310), L14 (1598 cc)Road/Race Car
> > (KB310), KB310
> > > > (S14 SR20 DET) In the system, S3 910 S/Wagon S14 SR20 VVT/Motec,
KPA
> > >510
> > > > (Stanza Coupe) stock as a rock, VB11 (Pulsar N13?) Postie
> > Panel Van (E15
> > > > turbo on Gas Research Carb Yee-Hah!)
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> > > > Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:08
> > > >
> > > > My two cents worth!
> > > > I have run the line back to the Surge tank, as I think it's
> > best to keep
> > > > the
> > > > Surge tank full at all times, an example of this is a recent
> > meeting at
> > > > Winton
> > > > on a hot day. Coming into turn one and two, I started to get what
> > > > seemed to
> > > > be
> > > > fuel surge, which was caused by the heat factor, if I didn't run the
> > >line
> > > > back
> > > > to the surge tank then I would of run out.
> > > > I would not rely on the primary pump even on the street, as
> > you say he
> > >is
> > > > probably going to give it a caning.
> > > > Peter
> > > > SR20DE Race Car (1600)
> > > >
> > > > justin darragh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Guys, guys, guys,
> > > > > I do understand all that you are saying and thanx but, at
> > the end of
> > >the
> > > > day
> > > > > I am building the thing for a 19yr old who will, no dout do silly
> > >things
> > > > > with it. There will come the day he is out driving in the heat of
> > >summer
> > > > > with little cash on a country road, pull into a servo with no
> > > > "opti-fen-max"
> > > > > and have a good cane and f#*k my beautiful job. I realise that
surge
> > > > return
> > > > > has a few advantages but none outway doing a job right the
> > first time.
> > > > > Nothing excuses a motor detonating from hot fuel. Too many
> > racers have
> > > > > learnt this. I dont want a 2lt swirl pot or a fuel cooler.
> > Subs in the
> > > > back
> > > > > tells me the system is going under the car so a liter pot is being
> > >used.
> > > > I
> > > > > am returning rail fuel to the tank.Thanx Errol/list
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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