Thanks, It was interesting. Too much maths involved to figure it out for
myself though.
It does mention using aluminium on the cold side and that would be good for
a surge tank, but I don't dig the idea of putting electricity through it!
Maybe someone here with a bit more guts than me would like to try sticking
one of these thingys onto a surge tank and see how effective it would be.
Could discover a new kind of molotof!! :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Richardson
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 1:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
>
>
>
> A peltier is used mostly in electronics applications and most good
> electronics shops stock them. It's effectively a heat pump shaped like a
> plate, you feed it some current and one side gets cold and the other side
> gets warm (thats where the cooling fan comes in) the only thing is that I
> believe if you allow the hot side to get too hot it cooks itself. I guess
> you would coil the fuel line round the cold plate and insulate the whole
> thing since it would be well below ambient. Read up on the principle if
> your interested at
> http://www.electronics-cooling.com/Resources/EC_Articles/SEP96/sep
> 96_04.htm
>
> - Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geordie Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
>
>
> > What's a Peltier device?
> >
> > I dunno... If cold fuel became an issue on my car and the best solution
> > would be to chill the fuel then I'd buy a 12v mini fridge from
> k-mart for
> > $150 and pull it to bits.. No worrys! :)
> >
> > What's the freezing temperature of fuel?
> >
> > How cold is too cold?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you talking those peltier devices? They may work depending on how
> hot
> > > the fuel gets (need to reject the heat) but if you had a cooling
> > > fan or the
> > > like ... you could end up with very cold fuel.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Geordie Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:47:45 +1000
> > > >
> > > >I would imagine that it wouldn't be hard to rig up one of
> those 12 volt
> > > >mini
> > > >fridge condensors and attach it to a surge tank and chill the fuel in
> > > >that?!?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2000 2:05 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you hear that Farari got caught chilling their fuel for
> > > Monza at the
> > > > > weekend - will Michael lose the points? McLaren are not happy
> > > about it
> > > >for
> > > > > some reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > terry
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad
> HALLETT
> > > > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2000 11:06 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Errol/list/zac
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mate of mine just built a burnout car, and they have a 'chilly
> > > > > bin' between
> > > > > the surge tank and the fuel rail. It is an aluminium box,
> > > with a copper
> > > > > coil through the middle. Fuel goes through the copper coil, and
> they
> > > >fill
> > > > > the box with ice before a run, ensuring very cold fuel. I must
> > > > > play with my
> > > > > 12V Engel to see if I can rig up a permanent solution!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Brad HALLETT
> > > > >
> > > > > Proudly Endorsing:
> > > > > ...DATRATS...
> > > > > http://203.33.35.3
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> > > > > For Nissan Motorsport Components
> > > > > Professional Budget Priced competition equipment
> > > > > Contact Errol SMITH
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol
> Smith
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pete,
> > > > > Run a restrictor in the return line to the tank and a good Hi Flow
> LP
> > > > > supply pump. There is no reason you would have a problem on the
> > > > > hottest day
> > > > > with this setup.
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Feral Errol.
> > > > > S13 SR20DE Race Car (KB310), L14 (1598 cc)Road/Race Car
> > > (KB310), KB310
> > > > > (S14 SR20 DET) In the system, S3 910 S/Wagon S14 SR20 VVT/Motec,
> KPA
> > > >510
> > > > > (Stanza Coupe) stock as a rock, VB11 (Pulsar N13?) Postie
> > > Panel Van (E15
> > > > > turbo on Gas Research Carb Yee-Hah!)
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Errol/list/zac
> > > > > Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:08
> > > > >
> > > > > My two cents worth!
> > > > > I have run the line back to the Surge tank, as I think it's
> > > best to keep
> > > > > the
> > > > > Surge tank full at all times, an example of this is a recent
> > > meeting at
> > > > > Winton
> > > > > on a hot day. Coming into turn one and two, I started to get what
> > > > > seemed to
> > > > > be
> > > > > fuel surge, which was caused by the heat factor, if I
> didn't run the
> > > >line
> > > > > back
> > > > > to the surge tank then I would of run out.
> > > > > I would not rely on the primary pump even on the street, as
> > > you say he
> > > >is
> > > > > probably going to give it a caning.
> > > > > Peter
> > > > > SR20DE Race Car (1600)
> > > > >
> > > > > justin darragh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Guys, guys, guys,
> > > > > > I do understand all that you are saying and thanx but, at
> > > the end of
> > > >the
> > > > > day
> > > > > > I am building the thing for a 19yr old who will, no
> dout do silly
> > > >things
> > > > > > with it. There will come the day he is out driving in
> the heat of
> > > >summer
> > > > > > with little cash on a country road, pull into a servo with no
> > > > > "opti-fen-max"
> > > > > > and have a good cane and f#*k my beautiful job. I realise that
> surge
> > > > > return
> > > > > > has a few advantages but none outway doing a job right the
> > > first time.
> > > > > > Nothing excuses a motor detonating from hot fuel. Too many
> > > racers have
> > > > > > learnt this. I dont want a 2lt swirl pot or a fuel cooler.
> > > Subs in the
> > > > > back
> > > > > > tells me the system is going under the car so a liter
> pot is being
> > > >used.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > am returning rail fuel to the tank.Thanx Errol/list
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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