Hey Richard

Seems like you have a fair collection going. I do some talking and see what
I can arrange.


Cheers johno

Transmental-Design
http://www.transmentaldesign.cjb.net/



On 9/7/02 9:33 PM, "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gday, Johno
> After adding your Enkies to my stock pile, I counted 16, 14 inch mags and 6,
> 13 inch mags stacked in the shed, plus 3 sets of mags on our cars. (the
> fourth Datto has a set of stock rims because it had near new tyres on when I
> purchased it).  I also have 8 pairs of upgrade struts, from 200B to 280ZX.
> 6 spare gearboxes, 5 spare diffs, assorted panels, electrical bits and
> general hardwear items.
> I am currently putting my Datto 1600 spare parts collection together in 1
> place, and it looks like I need to have a rationalisation sale after I have
> assembled my 1600SSS, and Luke's '68 model is rebuilt.  Again, a good reason
> to get a swap meet going.
> 
> What about in Echuca?  It's central to everywhere, Adelaide, Sydney,
> Melbourne Canberra, and has plenty of overnight accomodation. Talk to your
> Datto mates about the idea.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blown 510" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ozdat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 21:04 PM
> Subject: Re: What about a Japanese "Swap Meet"
> 
> 
>> So do I we have too much stuff.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers johno
>> 
>> Transmental-Design
>> http://www.transmentaldesign.cjb.net/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/7/02 8:56 PM, "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> So do I Malcolm,
>>> Hence the "swap meet" suggestion.
>>> How do you find your cars/bits in NZ?
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 20:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: What about a Japanese "Swap Meet"
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I still have a few spare sets I dont need
>>>> 
>>>> malcolm
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Clough wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Mal
>>>>> 
>>>>> The SU's are getting very hard to find, but they turn up fairly
>>> regularly in
>>>>> our local Trading Post newspaper.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Speaking of stuff that's hard to find, anyone know of any "swap meets"
>>> that
>>>>> specialise in bits for Japanese cars?  The only swap meets I've been
> to
>>> are
>>>>> full of Holden Ford and US stuff, nothing I'm interested in.  Where
> are
>>> all
>>>>> the hot parts for old Jap cars swapped or sold?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there aren't any maybe we had better kick one off  - what about a
>>> Datto
>>>>> swap meet? (perhaps Toyota also?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 22:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The L16 and the L18 have the same carb setup  ,right down to the
>>>>>> needles.When it comes to SU's.
>>>>>> Remember they stopped making real L18SSS engines in 1973.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> malcolm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Richard Clough wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rick I agree.
>>>>>>> For road use the standard exhaust manifold on an L16 isn't too bad,
> and
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> its
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a lot quieter thasn extractors.  Its not going to restrict breathing
> as
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> much
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> as what follows it.  The puny stock exhaust system should be simply
> up
>>>>>>> graded to a 2 inch one.
>>>>>>> The other big restriction is the intake breathing.  Buy a pair of
> twin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> SU's
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> including the aircleaner, linkages and manifold from a 180BSSS for
>>> about
>>>>>>> $100-$150 and you will get another real improvement.
>>>>>>> That's about $400 all up, but both mods will be able to bolt on to
> your
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> new
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> L18 engine (with a good breathing head and cam) when it comes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If all this seems too expensive how about going back to basics.  Is
>>> your
>>>>>>> current engine in tune? Good plugs, and particularly points with the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> right
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> settings?  Distributor advancing correctly? Clean airfilter?  Valve
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> tappets
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> set correctly? Cam chain not stretched to the point where cam timing
> is
>>>>>>> badly retarded?
>>>>>>> These all reduce the performance and carbs and exhausts wont help if
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> these
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> basics are crook.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 0:47 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> James.
>>>>>>>> Here is what I know about extractors and the pro's and con's of
> them.
>>>>>>>> My mate has sspent years building race engines (honda ones
>>> unfortunatly)
>>>>>>>> And this is what he told me.
>>>>>>>> Extractors can give you either more responsive engine - More revvie
>>>>>>>> Or they can give you more torque - loosing your responsiveness.
>>>>>>>> (great for towing though)
>>>>>>>> I took some I bought of some one a while ago and he measured them
> up
>>> and
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> he was sure they would actually rob my 1600 wagon of responsiveness
> as
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> they
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> were designed for torque.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hense the reason they are not on the car or will ever be on it.
>>>>>>>> He also has had a little experiance with Datto's and he was quite
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> adament
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that on a stock L series the factory manifold with a decent 2 inch
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> system
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> would be quite a good thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As my wagon is stock I won't be bolting any extractors on my wagon
>>> until
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> she needs a rebuild.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then I will be doing a bit of headwork to her with a nice cam and
> some
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> heavy duty springs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also have a genuine 1971 1600SSS 4 door and the factory
> extractors
>>> are
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> totally different in design to the ones I bought for my wagon.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I guess I will be taking the SSS in with me when the wagons
> engine
>>> is
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> rebuilt so they can copy Mr Datsuns extractor design.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybee Terry or Errol can elaborate more on the pro's and cons of
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> extractors but I wouldn't be rushing out to buy the first pair I
> found
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> as
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> they might not be such a good thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any how take it easy.
>>>>>>>> P.S Take your car in to a retuable tuner you will be amased what a
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> little
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> tuning can do for performance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I know as I have spent months tinkering with my wagon and on a cold
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> morning WOW I LOVE IT!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later.
>>>>>>>> Rick White.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --- "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well yes they are a bolt on, to the head that is, but you'll then
>>> have
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> to
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> go down to your local exhaust shop to get them to weld the
> extractors
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> to
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> the current exhaust you have. This trip is always a fun one, the
>>> extra
>>>>>>>>> noise always atracts attention, just make sure its not from the
> boys
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> blue!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The ones that i have here have had a two bolt flange welded on to
> the
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> end
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> and this can make it easier to put them on a car with this set up,
>>> but
>>>>>>>>> invariable the distances dont meet up and you still need and
> exhaust
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> shop
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> to finish off the job.  Normally its only $30 or so.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> james wade writes:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Worth the money? Its really a short term measure I was driving
> today
>>>>>>>>>> getting frustrated at how little power the l16 puts out, any
> power
>>>>>>>>>> increase without having to result to porting etc would be great.
> How
>>>>>>>>>> easy are extractors to put on... I take it they are 'bolt on'?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -James
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Simpson
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 9:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can put extractors on a L16, there are quite a few
> floating
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Well i have some that are for a L16/L18 that i have no use for,
> but
>>> im
>>>>>>>>>> in WA and most people are elsewhere, but if your in WA email me
> off
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> the
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>> I'd prolly say that about $50-80 should be somewhere around the
>>> money
>>>>>>>>>> for em.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yer you'll get a little more power, a better exhaust note, and a
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> little
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> more fuel economy.  But dont expect it to turn into a burn-out
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> machine!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hehe im sure you understand what i mean.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> james wade writes:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of stupid questions...
>>>>>>>>>>> (and if there are no stupid questions just stupid people,
> consider
>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> a stupid person) im running  a l16 on my 510 and for the moment
> i
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> dont
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> think I will have enough money for a new engine for perhaps 3-6
>>>>>>>>>>> months. the l16 has pretty poor power as many of you know. its
> got
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> 32/36 webber on it, and im thinking of putting extractors on to
>>>>>>>>>>> improve the power a little bit further so i can save a bit more
> for
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> better engine.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> now, to the questions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. can i actually put extractors on the l16.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. how much are they worth. (anyone got any they want to sell)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. are they worth this (ie. bang for buck). keep in mind ive got
> a
>>>>>>>>>>> webber and a decent exhaust.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> cheers guys.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -james
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> James Wade / underground electronic magazine
>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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