So do I we have too much stuff.
Cheers johno Transmental-Design http://www.transmentaldesign.cjb.net/ On 9/7/02 8:56 PM, "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So do I Malcolm, > Hence the "swap meet" suggestion. > How do you find your cars/bits in NZ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 20:42 PM > Subject: Re: What about a Japanese "Swap Meet" > > >> I still have a few spare sets I dont need >> >> malcolm >> >> Richard Clough wrote: >> >>> Mal >>> >>> The SU's are getting very hard to find, but they turn up fairly > regularly in >>> our local Trading Post newspaper. >>> >>> Speaking of stuff that's hard to find, anyone know of any "swap meets" > that >>> specialise in bits for Japanese cars? The only swap meets I've been to > are >>> full of Holden Ford and US stuff, nothing I'm interested in. Where are > all >>> the hot parts for old Jap cars swapped or sold? >>> >>> If there aren't any maybe we had better kick one off - what about a > Datto >>> swap meet? (perhaps Toyota also?) >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 22:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: extractors for l16 >>> >>> >>> >>>> The L16 and the L18 have the same carb setup ,right down to the >>>> needles.When it comes to SU's. >>>> Remember they stopped making real L18SSS engines in 1973. >>>> >>>> malcolm >>>> >>>> Richard Clough wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Rick I agree. >>>>> For road use the standard exhaust manifold on an L16 isn't too bad, and >>>>> >>> its >>> >>>>> a lot quieter thasn extractors. Its not going to restrict breathing as >>>>> >>> much >>> >>>>> as what follows it. The puny stock exhaust system should be simply up >>>>> graded to a 2 inch one. >>>>> The other big restriction is the intake breathing. Buy a pair of twin >>>>> >>> SU's >>> >>>>> including the aircleaner, linkages and manifold from a 180BSSS for > about >>>>> $100-$150 and you will get another real improvement. >>>>> That's about $400 all up, but both mods will be able to bolt on to your >>>>> >>> new >>> >>>>> L18 engine (with a good breathing head and cam) when it comes. >>>>> >>>>> If all this seems too expensive how about going back to basics. Is > your >>>>> current engine in tune? Good plugs, and particularly points with the >>>>> >>> right >>> >>>>> settings? Distributor advancing correctly? Clean airfilter? Valve >>>>> >>> tappets >>> >>>>> set correctly? Cam chain not stretched to the point where cam timing is >>>>> badly retarded? >>>>> These all reduce the performance and carbs and exhausts wont help if >>>>> >>> these >>> >>>>> basics are crook. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 0:47 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: extractors for l16 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> James. >>>>>> Here is what I know about extractors and the pro's and con's of them. >>>>>> My mate has sspent years building race engines (honda ones > unfortunatly) >>>>>> And this is what he told me. >>>>>> Extractors can give you either more responsive engine - More revvie >>>>>> Or they can give you more torque - loosing your responsiveness. >>>>>> (great for towing though) >>>>>> I took some I bought of some one a while ago and he measured them up > and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> he was sure they would actually rob my 1600 wagon of responsiveness as >>>>> >>> they >>> >>>>> were designed for torque. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hense the reason they are not on the car or will ever be on it. >>>>>> He also has had a little experiance with Datto's and he was quite >>>>>> >>> adament >>> >>>>> that on a stock L series the factory manifold with a decent 2 inch >>>>> >>> system >>> >>>>> would be quite a good thing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> As my wagon is stock I won't be bolting any extractors on my wagon > until >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> she needs a rebuild. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Then I will be doing a bit of headwork to her with a nice cam and some >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> heavy duty springs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I also have a genuine 1971 1600SSS 4 door and the factory extractors > are >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> totally different in design to the ones I bought for my wagon. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So I guess I will be taking the SSS in with me when the wagons engine > is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> rebuilt so they can copy Mr Datsuns extractor design. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Maybee Terry or Errol can elaborate more on the pro's and cons of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> extractors but I wouldn't be rushing out to buy the first pair I found >>>>> >>> as >>> >>>>> they might not be such a good thing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Any how take it easy. >>>>>> P.S Take your car in to a retuable tuner you will be amased what a >>>>>> >>> little >>> >>>>> tuning can do for performance. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I know as I have spent months tinkering with my wagon and on a cold >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> morning WOW I LOVE IT!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Later. >>>>>> Rick White. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well yes they are a bolt on, to the head that is, but you'll then > have >>>>>>> >>> to >>> >>>>>>> go down to your local exhaust shop to get them to weld the extractors >>>>>>> >>> to >>> >>>>>>> the current exhaust you have. This trip is always a fun one, the > extra >>>>>>> noise always atracts attention, just make sure its not from the boys > in >>>>>>> blue! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ones that i have here have had a two bolt flange welded on to the >>>>>>> >>> end >>> >>>>>>> and this can make it easier to put them on a car with this set up, > but >>>>>>> invariable the distances dont meet up and you still need and exhaust >>>>>>> >>> shop >>> >>>>>>> to finish off the job. Normally its only $30 or so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> james wade writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Worth the money? Its really a short term measure I was driving today >>>>>>>> getting frustrated at how little power the l16 puts out, any power >>>>>>>> increase without having to result to porting etc would be great. How >>>>>>>> easy are extractors to put on... I take it they are 'bolt on'? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -James >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> Simpson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 9:39 PM >>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: extractors for l16 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes you can put extractors on a L16, there are quite a few floating >>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well i have some that are for a L16/L18 that i have no use for, but > im >>>>>>>> in WA and most people are elsewhere, but if your in WA email me off >>>>>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>> I'd prolly say that about $50-80 should be somewhere around the > money >>>>>>>> for em. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yer you'll get a little more power, a better exhaust note, and a >>>>>>>> >>> little >>> >>>>>>>> more fuel economy. But dont expect it to turn into a burn-out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> machine!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> hehe im sure you understand what i mean. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> james wade writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a couple of stupid questions... >>>>>>>>> (and if there are no stupid questions just stupid people, consider > me >>>>>>>>> a stupid person) im running a l16 on my 510 and for the moment i >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> dont >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> think I will have enough money for a new engine for perhaps 3-6 >>>>>>>>> months. the l16 has pretty poor power as many of you know. its got > a >>>>>>>>> 32/36 webber on it, and im thinking of putting extractors on to >>>>>>>>> improve the power a little bit further so i can save a bit more for > a >>>>>>>>> better engine. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> now, to the questions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. can i actually put extractors on the l16. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. how much are they worth. (anyone got any they want to sell) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. are they worth this (ie. bang for buck). keep in mind ive got a >>>>>>>>> webber and a decent exhaust. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers guys. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -james >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James Wade / underground electronic magazine >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> www.ugzine.com >>>>>>>>> PO BOX 140 >>>>>>>>> Kensington Park, SA 5068 >>>>>>>>> t:+61 8 8262 2850 >>>>>>>>> f:+61 8 8219 1070 >>>>>>>>> m:+61 (0)421 846 630 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- >>>>>>>> Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send >>>>>>>> submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised >>>>>>>> redistribution of this email >>>>>>>> >>> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Get Your free Ozdat Email Account >>>>>> ---> http://www.ozdat.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _____________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
