So do I Malcolm, Hence the "swap meet" suggestion. How do you find your cars/bits in NZ?
----- Original Message ----- From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 20:42 PM Subject: Re: What about a Japanese "Swap Meet" > I still have a few spare sets I dont need > > malcolm > > Richard Clough wrote: > > > Mal > > > > The SU's are getting very hard to find, but they turn up fairly regularly in > > our local Trading Post newspaper. > > > > Speaking of stuff that's hard to find, anyone know of any "swap meets" that > > specialise in bits for Japanese cars? The only swap meets I've been to are > > full of Holden Ford and US stuff, nothing I'm interested in. Where are all > > the hot parts for old Jap cars swapped or sold? > > > > If there aren't any maybe we had better kick one off - what about a Datto > > swap meet? (perhaps Toyota also?) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 22:25 PM > > Subject: Re: extractors for l16 > > > > > > > >>The L16 and the L18 have the same carb setup ,right down to the > >>needles.When it comes to SU's. > >>Remember they stopped making real L18SSS engines in 1973. > >> > >>malcolm > >> > >>Richard Clough wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Rick I agree. > >>>For road use the standard exhaust manifold on an L16 isn't too bad, and > >>> > > its > > > >>>a lot quieter thasn extractors. Its not going to restrict breathing as > >>> > > much > > > >>>as what follows it. The puny stock exhaust system should be simply up > >>>graded to a 2 inch one. > >>>The other big restriction is the intake breathing. Buy a pair of twin > >>> > > SU's > > > >>>including the aircleaner, linkages and manifold from a 180BSSS for about > >>>$100-$150 and you will get another real improvement. > >>>That's about $400 all up, but both mods will be able to bolt on to your > >>> > > new > > > >>>L18 engine (with a good breathing head and cam) when it comes. > >>> > >>>If all this seems too expensive how about going back to basics. Is your > >>>current engine in tune? Good plugs, and particularly points with the > >>> > > right > > > >>>settings? Distributor advancing correctly? Clean airfilter? Valve > >>> > > tappets > > > >>>set correctly? Cam chain not stretched to the point where cam timing is > >>>badly retarded? > >>>These all reduce the performance and carbs and exhausts wont help if > >>> > > these > > > >>>basics are crook. > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 0:47 AM > >>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>James. > >>>>Here is what I know about extractors and the pro's and con's of them. > >>>>My mate has sspent years building race engines (honda ones unfortunatly) > >>>>And this is what he told me. > >>>>Extractors can give you either more responsive engine - More revvie > >>>>Or they can give you more torque - loosing your responsiveness. > >>>>(great for towing though) > >>>>I took some I bought of some one a while ago and he measured them up and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>he was sure they would actually rob my 1600 wagon of responsiveness as > >>> > > they > > > >>>were designed for torque. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hense the reason they are not on the car or will ever be on it. > >>>>He also has had a little experiance with Datto's and he was quite > >>>> > > adament > > > >>>that on a stock L series the factory manifold with a decent 2 inch > >>> > > system > > > >>>would be quite a good thing. > >>> > >>> > >>>>As my wagon is stock I won't be bolting any extractors on my wagon until > >>>> > >>>> > >>>she needs a rebuild. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Then I will be doing a bit of headwork to her with a nice cam and some > >>>> > >>>> > >>>heavy duty springs. > >>> > >>> > >>>>I also have a genuine 1971 1600SSS 4 door and the factory extractors are > >>>> > >>>> > >>>totally different in design to the ones I bought for my wagon. > >>> > >>> > >>>>So I guess I will be taking the SSS in with me when the wagons engine is > >>>> > >>>> > >>>rebuilt so they can copy Mr Datsuns extractor design. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Maybee Terry or Errol can elaborate more on the pro's and cons of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>extractors but I wouldn't be rushing out to buy the first pair I found > >>> > > as > > > >>>they might not be such a good thing. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Any how take it easy. > >>>>P.S Take your car in to a retuable tuner you will be amased what a > >>>> > > little > > > >>>tuning can do for performance. > >>> > >>> > >>>>I know as I have spent months tinkering with my wagon and on a cold > >>>> > >>>> > >>>morning WOW I LOVE IT!! > >>> > >>> > >>>>Later. > >>>>Rick White. > >>>> > >>>>--- "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Well yes they are a bolt on, to the head that is, but you'll then have > >>>>> > > to > > > >>>>>go down to your local exhaust shop to get them to weld the extractors > >>>>> > > to > > > >>>>>the current exhaust you have. This trip is always a fun one, the extra > >>>>>noise always atracts attention, just make sure its not from the boys in > >>>>>blue! > >>>>> > >>>>>The ones that i have here have had a two bolt flange welded on to the > >>>>> > > end > > > >>>>>and this can make it easier to put them on a car with this set up, but > >>>>>invariable the distances dont meet up and you still need and exhaust > >>>>> > > shop > > > >>>>>to finish off the job. Normally its only $30 or so. > >>>>> > >>>>>Chris > >>>>> > >>>>>james wade writes: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Worth the money? Its really a short term measure I was driving today > >>>>>>getting frustrated at how little power the l16 puts out, any power > >>>>>>increase without having to result to porting etc would be great. How > >>>>>>easy are extractors to put on... I take it they are 'bolt on'? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-James > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>Simpson > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 9:39 PM > >>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>James, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Yes you can put extractors on a L16, there are quite a few floating > >>>>>>around > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Well i have some that are for a L16/L18 that i have no use for, but im > >>>>>>in WA and most people are elsewhere, but if your in WA email me off > >>>>>> > > the > > > >>>>>>list. > >>>>>>I'd prolly say that about $50-80 should be somewhere around the money > >>>>>>for em. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Yer you'll get a little more power, a better exhaust note, and a > >>>>>> > > little > > > >>>>>>more fuel economy. But dont expect it to turn into a burn-out > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>machine!! > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>hehe im sure you understand what i mean. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>james wade writes: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>a couple of stupid questions... > >>>>>>>(and if there are no stupid questions just stupid people, consider me > >>>>>>>a stupid person) im running a l16 on my 510 and for the moment i > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>dont > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>think I will have enough money for a new engine for perhaps 3-6 > >>>>>>>months. the l16 has pretty poor power as many of you know. its got a > >>>>>>>32/36 webber on it, and im thinking of putting extractors on to > >>>>>>>improve the power a little bit further so i can save a bit more for a > >>>>>>>better engine. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>now, to the questions. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>1. can i actually put extractors on the l16. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>2. how much are they worth. (anyone got any they want to sell) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>3. are they worth this (ie. bang for buck). keep in mind ive got a > >>>>>>>webber and a decent exhaust. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>cheers guys. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-james > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>James Wade / underground electronic magazine > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>www.ugzine.com > >>>>>>>PO BOX 140 > >>>>>>>Kensington Park, SA 5068 > >>>>>>>t:+61 8 8262 2850 > >>>>>>>f:+61 8 8219 1070 > >>>>>>>m:+61 (0)421 846 630 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>--membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- > >>>>>>Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send > >>>>>>submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised > >>>>>>redistribution of this email > >>>>>> > > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > > > >>>>>>http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > >>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>_____________________________________________________________ > >>>>Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > >>>>---> http://www.ozdat.com > >>>> > >>>>_____________________________________________________________ > >>>>Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with > >>>> > >>>> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
