BUY A WHOLE CAR AND WRECK IT

Richard Clough wrote:

> So do I Malcolm,
> Hence the "swap meet" suggestion.
> How do you find your cars/bits in NZ?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 20:42 PM
> Subject: Re: What about a Japanese "Swap Meet"
> 
> 
> 
>>I still have a few spare sets I dont need
>>
>>malcolm
>>
>>Richard Clough wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Mal
>>>
>>>The SU's are getting very hard to find, but they turn up fairly
>>>
> regularly in
> 
>>>our local Trading Post newspaper.
>>>
>>>Speaking of stuff that's hard to find, anyone know of any "swap meets"
>>>
> that
> 
>>>specialise in bits for Japanese cars?  The only swap meets I've been to
>>>
> are
> 
>>>full of Holden Ford and US stuff, nothing I'm interested in.  Where are
>>>
> all
> 
>>>the hot parts for old Jap cars swapped or sold?
>>>
>>>If there aren't any maybe we had better kick one off  - what about a
>>>
> Datto
> 
>>>swap meet? (perhaps Toyota also?)
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 22:25 PM
>>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The L16 and the L18 have the same carb setup  ,right down to the
>>>>needles.When it comes to SU's.
>>>>Remember they stopped making real L18SSS engines in 1973.
>>>>
>>>>malcolm
>>>>
>>>>Richard Clough wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rick I agree.
>>>>>For road use the standard exhaust manifold on an L16 isn't too bad, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>its
>>>
>>>
>>>>>a lot quieter thasn extractors.  Its not going to restrict breathing as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>much
>>>
>>>
>>>>>as what follows it.  The puny stock exhaust system should be simply up
>>>>>graded to a 2 inch one.
>>>>>The other big restriction is the intake breathing.  Buy a pair of twin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>SU's
>>>
>>>
>>>>>including the aircleaner, linkages and manifold from a 180BSSS for
>>>>>
> about
> 
>>>>>$100-$150 and you will get another real improvement.
>>>>>That's about $400 all up, but both mods will be able to bolt on to your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>new
>>>
>>>
>>>>>L18 engine (with a good breathing head and cam) when it comes.
>>>>>
>>>>>If all this seems too expensive how about going back to basics.  Is
>>>>>
> your
> 
>>>>>current engine in tune? Good plugs, and particularly points with the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>right
>>>
>>>
>>>>>settings?  Distributor advancing correctly? Clean airfilter?  Valve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>tappets
>>>
>>>
>>>>>set correctly? Cam chain not stretched to the point where cam timing is
>>>>>badly retarded?
>>>>>These all reduce the performance and carbs and exhausts wont help if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>these
>>>
>>>
>>>>>basics are crook.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 0:47 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>James.
>>>>>>Here is what I know about extractors and the pro's and con's of them.
>>>>>>My mate has sspent years building race engines (honda ones
>>>>>>
> unfortunatly)
> 
>>>>>>And this is what he told me.
>>>>>>Extractors can give you either more responsive engine - More revvie
>>>>>>Or they can give you more torque - loosing your responsiveness.
>>>>>>(great for towing though)
>>>>>>I took some I bought of some one a while ago and he measured them up
>>>>>>
> and
> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>he was sure they would actually rob my 1600 wagon of responsiveness as
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>they
>>>
>>>
>>>>>were designed for torque.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hense the reason they are not on the car or will ever be on it.
>>>>>>He also has had a little experiance with Datto's and he was quite
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>adament
>>>
>>>
>>>>>that on a stock L series the factory manifold with a decent 2 inch
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>system
>>>
>>>
>>>>>would be quite a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>As my wagon is stock I won't be bolting any extractors on my wagon
>>>>>>
> until
> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>she needs a rebuild.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Then I will be doing a bit of headwork to her with a nice cam and some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>heavy duty springs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I also have a genuine 1971 1600SSS 4 door and the factory extractors
>>>>>>
> are
> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>totally different in design to the ones I bought for my wagon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>So I guess I will be taking the SSS in with me when the wagons engine
>>>>>>
> is
> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>rebuilt so they can copy Mr Datsuns extractor design.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybee Terry or Errol can elaborate more on the pro's and cons of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>extractors but I wouldn't be rushing out to buy the first pair I found
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>as
>>>
>>>
>>>>>they might not be such a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Any how take it easy.
>>>>>>P.S Take your car in to a retuable tuner you will be amased what a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>little
>>>
>>>
>>>>>tuning can do for performance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I know as I have spent months tinkering with my wagon and on a cold
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>morning WOW I LOVE IT!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Later.
>>>>>>Rick White.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well yes they are a bolt on, to the head that is, but you'll then
>>>>>>>
> have
> 
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>go down to your local exhaust shop to get them to weld the extractors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the current exhaust you have. This trip is always a fun one, the
>>>>>>>
> extra
> 
>>>>>>>noise always atracts attention, just make sure its not from the boys
>>>>>>>
> in
> 
>>>>>>>blue!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The ones that i have here have had a two bolt flange welded on to the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>end
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>and this can make it easier to put them on a car with this set up,
>>>>>>>
> but
> 
>>>>>>>invariable the distances dont meet up and you still need and exhaust
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>shop
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>to finish off the job.  Normally its only $30 or so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>james wade writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Worth the money? Its really a short term measure I was driving today
>>>>>>>>getting frustrated at how little power the l16 puts out, any power
>>>>>>>>increase without having to result to porting etc would be great. How
>>>>>>>>easy are extractors to put on... I take it they are 'bolt on'?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>Simpson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 9:39 PM
>>>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes you can put extractors on a L16, there are quite a few floating
>>>>>>>>around
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well i have some that are for a L16/L18 that i have no use for, but
>>>>>>>>
> im
> 
>>>>>>>>in WA and most people are elsewhere, but if your in WA email me off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>list.
>>>>>>>>I'd prolly say that about $50-80 should be somewhere around the
>>>>>>>>
> money
> 
>>>>>>>>for em.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yer you'll get a little more power, a better exhaust note, and a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>little
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>more fuel economy.  But dont expect it to turn into a burn-out
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>machine!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>hehe im sure you understand what i mean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>james wade writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a couple of stupid questions...
>>>>>>>>>(and if there are no stupid questions just stupid people, consider
>>>>>>>>>
> me
> 
>>>>>>>>>a stupid person) im running  a l16 on my 510 and for the moment i
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>dont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>think I will have enough money for a new engine for perhaps 3-6
>>>>>>>>>months. the l16 has pretty poor power as many of you know. its got
>>>>>>>>>
> a
> 
>>>>>>>>>32/36 webber on it, and im thinking of putting extractors on to
>>>>>>>>>improve the power a little bit further so i can save a bit more for
>>>>>>>>>
> a
> 
>>>>>>>>>better engine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>now, to the questions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1. can i actually put extractors on the l16.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>2. how much are they worth. (anyone got any they want to sell)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>3. are they worth this (ie. bang for buck). keep in mind ive got a
>>>>>>>>>webber and a decent exhaust.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>cheers guys.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-james
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James Wade / underground electronic magazine
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