I still have a few spare sets I dont need

malcolm

Richard Clough wrote:

> Mal
> 
> The SU's are getting very hard to find, but they turn up fairly regularly in
> our local Trading Post newspaper.
> 
> Speaking of stuff that's hard to find, anyone know of any "swap meets" that
> specialise in bits for Japanese cars?  The only swap meets I've been to are
> full of Holden Ford and US stuff, nothing I'm interested in.  Where are all
> the hot parts for old Jap cars swapped or sold?
> 
> If there aren't any maybe we had better kick one off  - what about a Datto
> swap meet? (perhaps Toyota also?)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 22:25 PM
> Subject: Re: extractors for l16
> 
> 
> 
>>The L16 and the L18 have the same carb setup  ,right down to the
>>needles.When it comes to SU's.
>>Remember they stopped making real L18SSS engines in 1973.
>>
>>malcolm
>>
>>Richard Clough wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rick I agree.
>>>For road use the standard exhaust manifold on an L16 isn't too bad, and
>>>
> its
> 
>>>a lot quieter thasn extractors.  Its not going to restrict breathing as
>>>
> much
> 
>>>as what follows it.  The puny stock exhaust system should be simply up
>>>graded to a 2 inch one.
>>>The other big restriction is the intake breathing.  Buy a pair of twin
>>>
> SU's
> 
>>>including the aircleaner, linkages and manifold from a 180BSSS for about
>>>$100-$150 and you will get another real improvement.
>>>That's about $400 all up, but both mods will be able to bolt on to your
>>>
> new
> 
>>>L18 engine (with a good breathing head and cam) when it comes.
>>>
>>>If all this seems too expensive how about going back to basics.  Is your
>>>current engine in tune? Good plugs, and particularly points with the
>>>
> right
> 
>>>settings?  Distributor advancing correctly? Clean airfilter?  Valve
>>>
> tappets
> 
>>>set correctly? Cam chain not stretched to the point where cam timing is
>>>badly retarded?
>>>These all reduce the performance and carbs and exhausts wont help if
>>>
> these
> 
>>>basics are crook.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Rick White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 0:47 AM
>>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>James.
>>>>Here is what I know about extractors and the pro's and con's of them.
>>>>My mate has sspent years building race engines (honda ones unfortunatly)
>>>>And this is what he told me.
>>>>Extractors can give you either more responsive engine - More revvie
>>>>Or they can give you more torque - loosing your responsiveness.
>>>>(great for towing though)
>>>>I took some I bought of some one a while ago and he measured them up and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>he was sure they would actually rob my 1600 wagon of responsiveness as
>>>
> they
> 
>>>were designed for torque.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hense the reason they are not on the car or will ever be on it.
>>>>He also has had a little experiance with Datto's and he was quite
>>>>
> adament
> 
>>>that on a stock L series the factory manifold with a decent 2 inch
>>>
> system
> 
>>>would be quite a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>>As my wagon is stock I won't be bolting any extractors on my wagon until
>>>>
>>>>
>>>she needs a rebuild.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Then I will be doing a bit of headwork to her with a nice cam and some
>>>>
>>>>
>>>heavy duty springs.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I also have a genuine 1971 1600SSS 4 door and the factory extractors are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>totally different in design to the ones I bought for my wagon.
>>>
>>>
>>>>So I guess I will be taking the SSS in with me when the wagons engine is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>rebuilt so they can copy Mr Datsuns extractor design.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Maybee Terry or Errol can elaborate more on the pro's and cons of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>extractors but I wouldn't be rushing out to buy the first pair I found
>>>
> as
> 
>>>they might not be such a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Any how take it easy.
>>>>P.S Take your car in to a retuable tuner you will be amased what a
>>>>
> little
> 
>>>tuning can do for performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I know as I have spent months tinkering with my wagon and on a cold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>morning WOW I LOVE IT!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Later.
>>>>Rick White.
>>>>
>>>>--- "Chris Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Well yes they are a bolt on, to the head that is, but you'll then have
>>>>>
> to
> 
>>>>>go down to your local exhaust shop to get them to weld the extractors
>>>>>
> to
> 
>>>>>the current exhaust you have. This trip is always a fun one, the extra
>>>>>noise always atracts attention, just make sure its not from the boys in
>>>>>blue!
>>>>>
>>>>>The ones that i have here have had a two bolt flange welded on to the
>>>>>
> end
> 
>>>>>and this can make it easier to put them on a car with this set up, but
>>>>>invariable the distances dont meet up and you still need and exhaust
>>>>>
> shop
> 
>>>>>to finish off the job.  Normally its only $30 or so.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>james wade writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Worth the money? Its really a short term measure I was driving today
>>>>>>getting frustrated at how little power the l16 puts out, any power
>>>>>>increase without having to result to porting etc would be great. How
>>>>>>easy are extractors to put on... I take it they are 'bolt on'?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>Simpson
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 9:39 PM
>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>Subject: Re: extractors for l16
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes you can put extractors on a L16, there are quite a few floating
>>>>>>around
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well i have some that are for a L16/L18 that i have no use for, but im
>>>>>>in WA and most people are elsewhere, but if your in WA email me off
>>>>>>
> the
> 
>>>>>>list.
>>>>>>I'd prolly say that about $50-80 should be somewhere around the money
>>>>>>for em.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yer you'll get a little more power, a better exhaust note, and a
>>>>>>
> little
> 
>>>>>>more fuel economy.  But dont expect it to turn into a burn-out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>machine!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>hehe im sure you understand what i mean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>james wade writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a couple of stupid questions...
>>>>>>>(and if there are no stupid questions just stupid people, consider me
>>>>>>>a stupid person) im running  a l16 on my 510 and for the moment i
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>dont
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>think I will have enough money for a new engine for perhaps 3-6
>>>>>>>months. the l16 has pretty poor power as many of you know. its got a
>>>>>>>32/36 webber on it, and im thinking of putting extractors on to
>>>>>>>improve the power a little bit further so i can save a bit more for a
>>>>>>>better engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>now, to the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. can i actually put extractors on the l16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2. how much are they worth. (anyone got any they want to sell)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>3. are they worth this (ie. bang for buck). keep in mind ive got a
>>>>>>>webber and a decent exhaust.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>cheers guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-james
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James Wade / underground electronic magazine
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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