The starter isn't in the car atm, i'm going to put it back in this arvo and do as you have suggested. Test that power is getting to the starter correctly. I pretty much assumed that if power was getting to the solenoid to push the pin forwards then the starter wouldhave power. Hopefully i am completely wrong. I'll let you know how i go. There were no burn marks on any contacts at all, infact they look brand spanking new.
Also the battery isn't mounted in the car atm and is earthed to the engine and chassis, is this wrong?? thanks for the help Terry and David, cheers, Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Melanie Flaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: Re: starte motor question > Adam don't get to stressed about the solenoid contact story. Those contacts > terry is on about are only in Nippon Denso starters and yours is not one of > those. From the picture it looks to be Hitachi. Also judging by the brush > box shape I would say its a reduction geared job so don't get to stressed by > the revs the drive does when you run it on a battery. Have you put it back > in the car now? When you had it out there were no burn marks on the main > battery stud on the solenoid? judging by the amount of wear on those > brushes you could pretty much guarantee there is nothing wrong with the > starter at all. If it is back in the car now and still wont go but is > clicking I would just about put money on the fact that you have an open > circuit (break/bad connection) in your positive battery cable. To test for > this you will need someone turning the key to crank whilst you check to see > if battery voltage is still present at the stud on the solenoid. My money > is on the fact that it disappears or is not even there at all whilst > cranking. Good luck and let me know how you go. > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > i was on the list Terry, but am not currently on the list, if you could > ask > > in the list i would really appreciate it > > > > It is the starter motor that has always been on my engine(i bought a 1/2 > > cut) and was fine when i first starterd it. Maybe the previous owner in > > japan replaced it ? or from looking at the manual, there wer atleast 3 > > different types of starters used on the sr turbo. > > > > cheers, > > Adam > > > > > > "if you bite off more than you can chew then chew like hell" > > -Peter Brock > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:05 PM > > Subject: RE: starte motor question > > > > > > > Adam, > > > > > > It certainly looks like the starter is stuffed. What surprises me is > that > > > that type of starter is on a SR turbo in the first place. Most other > > > Nissans, even older type turbos like the FJ use an eccentric type > starter > > > which are far superior to the slider type. I haven't a clue what fits > what > > > as far as SR's go. Could be someone else on here knows what your options > > > are. > > > > > > Are you on the SR Transplants list? - I can ask for you over there if > > you're > > > not. Like most other Nissan engines there are probably good lower cost > > > solutions to get you on the move again. > > > > > > regards > > > Terry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam Jackson > > > Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 6:35 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > anyone have any idea of what a new starter motor for an sr20det would be > > > worth? > > > > > > cheers, > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Craig Coffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 5:02 PM > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a rebuild on the way for that starter. > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 6:41 PM > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has a lever and slide contacts in the 'ballery' (what they call > it > > in > > > > the > > > > > manual)/solenoid. I tested the resistance on the solenoid when > pushing > > > the > > > > > pin back and got a reading of 0, so that seems to be fine. Why > > wouldn't > > > > the > > > > > starter motor crank at all, it's getting power from the solenoid > when > > > the > > > > > gear is pushed forwards and is earthed to the engine. I put the > motor > > > back > > > > > together and it cranks when hooked up directly to the motor, pin > > pushes > > > > > forwards when supplied with power. But as soon as i put it back in > the > > > car > > > > > the starter won't turn, but i can hear the pin pushing forwards. > Apart > > > > from > > > > > the starter being stuffed, i can't think of a reason why it is > playing > > > up > > > > > > > > > > One thing i ahve noticed is that the starter motor doesn't spin as > > > quickly > > > > > as other starters that i've hooked directly upto a battery to test. > > > Maybe > > > > > that's a tell tale sign the starter is stuffed?? > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > ps - yes ti is a Hitachi OEM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 3:54 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adam, > > > > > > > > > > > > What type of starter is it - old style or concentric, and is it a > > > > Hitachi? > > > > > > OEM. The brush pack looks a bit like old style to me so it will > have > > a > > > > > lever > > > > > > and slide contacts in the solenoid and not the later style steel > > ring > > > > and > > > > > > tab setup. I still think the contacts in the solenoid are your > > > problem, > > > > > > there doesn't look like there's anything wrong with the brush > > > assembly. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam > > Jackson > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 3:34 PM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: starte motor question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took the starter motor apart, here's a pic of the bushes....they > > are > > > > all > > > > > > larger than the factory recommended(11mm) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://members.optushome.com.au/adamja/starter.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry, > > > > > > > > > > > > Where abouts are the tabs that you mentioned? I couldn't see them > on > > > the > > > > > > solenoid?? > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
