I think you are going off into left field there.
There is a difference between responding to a personal attack (like
Pearl Harbour) and feeling like you need to be policeman for the world
and send your people half way around the world to intervene on behalf of
a group that won't thank you for it in the long run. (Afghanistan)
Randy
On 09/09/2013 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
So you're suggesting when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor we should have just
sat back and done nothing?
I agree with you on Iraq and Afghanistan and I suspect we'd agree on Vietnam
too but when you try to take the same ideal back into WWII your argument falls
apart and you slip into grumbling old man territory. They're completely
different sets of situations.
In the first we decided we didn't like what was going on so we trumped up some
reasons to go change things.
In the latter we were attacked and responded. When it comes to war the only way
to finish (I won't say win, I don't really think you ever win) is to be meaner
and nastier and than the other guy. For us that meant the nukes. We could have
carpet bombed housing complexes in Tokyo, in fact thats probably what we'd have
ended up doing otherwise.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:34:51 -0400
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i'm not really caught up on the particular issue, but rather on this whole
messianic complex that we must constantly be "liberating" people from
"enslavement" by evil forces trying to "take over the world." it is stupid
and mendacious and it has gotten me cynical about all war.
as to the question of whether i can massacre civilians to reduce casualties
between combatants, i'm inclined to say "no" but i'd really rather be
addressing not fighting the war to begin with.
by invading occupying places such as iraq and afghanistan, all you do,
other than making certain select special interests richer, is spend a ton
of money you don't have to enrage the locals against you and erode your
credibility in the eyes of the world. the people who push for these
programs justify them by using this nonsensical rhetoric and i'd like to
cut them off right there!
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