enjoy putting words in my mouth dont u? ;-^) ...i have already commented on your opinion that my spiritual experiences are just my imagination, and like i said, that is simply your opinion, and definately wrong. i do not feel that u are in any position to judge my experiences as you were not part of them. i do not know why u keep on insisting on this...are all of your experiences just your imagination working overtime? and even if they were, does that make them unreal?
as mentioned, hallucinations are real to those experiencing them, and totally unreal to you...why does everybodies reality have to be your reality? emotions are real, but often felt alone and not by community...reality to me is not a static non-changing structure that is the same for everyone. if u think it is i would be interested in hearing how u come to that determination... On May 19, 6:14 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > "sure there is your > basic fundamental reality" e_space > > That is all that is reality. > > "but we also have to consider the voracity > of the mind to create its own reality" e_space > > This is not another reality, it is by your own admission created by > your mind. > I know the experience that you have and and can attain it any time. > Your definition of the experience is your personal religion. It is > what you imagine the experience to be, to give you comfort from the > fear of the unknown. > > peace & Love > > On May 18, 6:48 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > im sure that your opinion is based on your reality ;-^) > > > On May 18, 5:55 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > Any time you see my name in the upper left hand corner of a post you > > > can be assured it is my opinion. > > > > I know that you won't let it bother you that my opinion is based on > > > reality and not mystical beliefs :-) > > > > peace & Love > > > > On May 18, 5:12 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ill take that as your opinion ;-^) > > > > > On May 18, 2:58 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On May 17, 9:37 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > i think one must consider the difference between imagination and > > > > > > inspiration. one is developed, the other realized. > > > > > > I can agree with that. I'd expand on "realized" to say that it is > > > > > connecting to the collective intelligence. > > > > > > > the original feeling that led to a series of OBE's happened as i was > > > > > > lying in bed with eyes closed, just before sleep. i started to get > > > > > > the > > > > > > sensation of being drawn out of my body, like a strong magnetic > > > > > > pulling, and it had nothing to do with imagination. > > > > > > I would think that you realized (connected to the col. intel.) > > > > > something greater than your existence, and then you chose to define it > > > > > as you do. > > > > > > i was scared > > > > > > > because i felt my spirit was going to leave my body, and i did not > > > > > > want an evil spirit to enter while i was gone, so i resisted. i > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > to go, but kept shutting the attraction down out of fear. one day > > > > > > while experiencing this pulling i said, 'mr devil, im going on a > > > > > > journey and u aint allowed into this body while im gone', then i > > > > > > released my spirit and i have never been the same since... > > > > > > That you had to tell the devil to leave your body alone leans way > > > > > towards imagination :-) > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > On May 16, 3:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > "desperatly need to beleive" > > > > > > > > That's the key to understanding all spiritual beliefs. > > > > > > > The 'fear of the unknown' is the root of the 'fear of death'. > > > > > > > For the common man (99.99%) the imagination is the only relief. > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > the weak imagination, there are plenty of dogmas to ascribe to > > > > > > > for the > > > > > > > comfort needed. Imagining a dogma to be true is good enough for > > > > > > > holding the 'fear' at bay. > > > > > > > > An eternal Life without the elements of Life is a joke. It's a > > > > > > > ridiculous fabrication of the imagination. > > > > > > > There is absolutely no substance to the idea. Every belief of an > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > Life has absolutely no other source of verification than the human > > > > > > > 'living' mind's imagination. > > > > > > > Everything spiritual has the Life as a reference point. All of the > > > > > > > mystical mediums can gain the knowledge, they claim comes from the > > > > > > > dead, from the collective intelligence of mankind. > > > > > > > The collective intelligence is the only thing 'spiritual' about > > > > > > > mankind. > > > > > > > > You are not alone, but we are very few who can face the 'fear'. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On May 16, 4:24 am, buddahspath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > just pondering a thought after a tramatic funeral and evening of > > > > > > > > emotional arguments between me[AGNOSTIC PHILOSIPHER] and my > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > fundementalist christians. who desperatly need to beleive what > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > have taught to believe is reality.i beleve to be irrational > > > > > > > > brainwashing! i am well aware that i have no comforting fairy > > > > > > > > tales of > > > > > > > > wonderful afterlife.i seriously doubt that a eternal life with > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > interestig challenges would be a tortureous hell! but maybe > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > could be some sort of nirvanic stages to grow as individuals and > > > > > > > > universe? but i guess as long my brain,heart,lungs and nervous > > > > > > > > system > > > > > > > > cooperate i journey through my own dream,fantasies and > > > > > > > > delusions of my > > > > > > > > imagination! doubt that i am the only souljourner on the road > > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > > travelled!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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