When I moved into my community the welcoming committee came by to drop off a basket full of gifts as a way of saying hello. We took the gifts and had a great time without feeling any need for reciprocation. I had a neighbor give me two tickets to the symphony because he and his wife could not go on that date, they were great seats. He never came by to ask any favors and a year later they moved away. I give away gifts all the time and think that giving begins a cycle of giving. Those that receive learn that giving can be as rewarding as receiving. I can see that in the business world buying lavish gifts for the management might be construed as a request for special treatment and I have seen some fine women climb the corporate ladder via their sexual prowess, if that can be considered a gift.
On Jun 29, 1:08 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > I wonder why may I accept a ' gift ' from someone who I do not even > know, to whom I myself have never offered one ( gift ) or ( left to > myself ) would never desire to ! > > " Integrity does not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift." > > Read the first para. Why else would one accept a gift ? Unless it is > token, read ' costing next to nothing,' say, flowers. > > On Jun 29, 9:21 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Gifts are good, I like gifts, what's wrong with gifts? Integrity does > > not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift. A gift should not be > > preconceived as a bribe. The corrupted have made it so because they > > took gifts in exchange for favor but this does not set a standard. We > > continually diminish our quality of life on the basis of those that > > are unethical, why let them ruin it for the rest of us? Give and > > Receive without strings! > > > On Jun 28, 10:56 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > accepting business gifts should be > > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. -iam > > > > I agree only in the public sector. I work for the State so pretty > > > much the same thing applies to me. While people still accept tickets > > > to sporting events and lunches and cases of booze on the holidays and > > > complimentary fishing/hunting trips; it really is graft and shouldn't > > > be done. However, in the private sector this is often how things are > > > done. It's how the service provider buys access. Tax money isn't > > > used to pay for the services so I don't have a problem with it. If > > > large corporations didn't use this technique to gain access to foreign > > > potential customers we would never get their business. > > > > I commend your wife on her integrity. It's a rare trait. > > > > dj > > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:00 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Chomsky has my vote along with slipsky of course. > > > > > Well the Palestinian people elected one party and the US and Israel > > > > would > > > > only support the losers. Radical changes are going to need to be > > > > made,, but > > > > There is the lingering doubt that the will is there. I am hoping for > > > > health > > > > care, but as long as the politicians are exempt from the bribery laws > > > > it > > > > will never happen. > > > > > I am looking at the difference in countries. My wife is the officer in > > > > charge of quality control for the fire department.. and she was offered > > > > tickets for her and me to a polo match free. Well we had to turn them > > > > down > > > > and make a report of it. It has to do with honesty in government. > > > > > The truth is I am glad to see that there are people watching and much > > > > more > > > > of it needs to occur, every where ,, accepting business gifts should be > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Here is Noam Chomsky's take on it: > > > > >>http://books.google.com/books?id=yDhGoR6yU8AC&dq=Noam+Chomsky+anarchy... > > > > >> On Jun 27, 4:27 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Collective anger is interesting . It leaves me wondering who is > > > >> > controlling > > > >> > it. In Red Handed discussion there is tremendous violence > > > >> > demonstrated > > > >> > and > > > >> > used for control. As for the people being angry. could they be > > > >> > frustrated, > > > >> > with supposed religious leadership using violence and fear to > > > >> > control, > > > >> > it > > > >> > would seem to be more frustration than anger. > > > > >> > To me it seems in the majority of people have a deep seated need to > > > >> > believe > > > >> > in something greater than them selves. looking at Iran, I can not > > > >> > help > > > >> > but > > > >> > wonder what is really going on. > > > >> > Allan > > > > >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > This is a very nice examination of the emotion contained in the > > > >> > > anarchy that ensues as a result of suppression, Vam. It is > > > >> > > fascinating (and horrifying) to watch the collective expression of > > > >> > > anger in anarchy. > > > > >> > > I think that anger, and its primary emotion fear, are ego based > > > >> > > emotions. If we are witnessing ourselves expressing less and less > > > >> > > anger, it is probably because we are not primarily centered in our > > > >> > > ego. Ego based desire - what I want - and its frustration is often > > > >> > > the cause, and if expressed without consideration of others, can be > > > >> > > destructive. Ego based anger can also be expressed in > > > >> > > consideration > > > >> > > of others, and the outcome is usually more palatable for all > > > >> > > involved. > > > > >> > > If our view looks beyond our ego, includes the broader > > > >> > > perspectives of > > > >> > > self as other and absolute truth in spirit, the integrated > > > >> > > expression > > > >> > > of anger simply becomes I am not and I am. Here is where anger of > > > >> > > others becomes a mirror to shadow self, and anger arising in self > > > >> > > can > > > >> > > be witnessed in patterns that have a more soulful revelation of > > > >> > > who I > > > >> > > am. > > > > >> > > Beyond that, there is only love and I am. > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
