So humans usurped gods role and invented a concept outside of creation? This would mean that god is not, nor needs to be, the pinnacle. Otherwise, god created evil in order for people to use. You cannot have it both ways. If a god created all, and was herself all good, evil COULD NOT exist. If the deistic corruption found in the bibles account is accurate, a good god could/would not exist.
Your insertion of the idea of a father is false and rings false. Unless your human father has personally condemned you to hell for not spending 89/90 hours worshipping him, how do you arrive at this idea? That is what you promote as a gods demands. The monotheistic god does nothing for anyone, and never has. And yet billions worship a book that promises every conceivable torture unless one promotes that god and passes on the promise of torture and stunts the intellect of yet more children. Hopefully you see the difference between a maniacally evil creation in bronze/iron age texts and the reality of a father that actually cares about his child and pays medical bills and education costs. As don said, there is a need to firmly guide children. I must restrain them from some actions now in order that they learn to restrain themselves later. Your god is the opposite and even promises to flay them for eternity in a pit of fire if they don't obey some vague guidelines that some paedophile, gold-digger, simpleton, bully, politician, etc., lay out for them. On Apr 6, 5:25 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Yo Fidds. > > Did I say that? Nope I don't think I did say that at all matey. > > Is that how you took my actual words? > > Remind me where you get such Ideas Fidds? > > Looking at your words I can only assume I made some comment along the > lines of 'evil exists as a consequence of God granting us free will'. > Probably we where mulling ove that old chestnut, Why would a loving > God allow evil? I probably said something along the lines of what I > have typed above here, and I may have additionaly said something like > 'man does evil, and this is a free choice of mankind' > > Although I can't really remember now. > > Fidds, would you say that the father who fails to clamp down on his > unruley son, and instead allows his son to make the mistakes that he > will and thus face the consequences of his actions can be blammed for > the misdeeds of his son? > > Or put another way. Is the father who refuses to make a slave of his > son and instead alllows his son to 'think' for himself, then > blamewhorthy if his son turns out to be a little shit? > > As to the rest, rubbish I'm afraid my man. Say what you want to say > about God, it don't bother me, make the mistaken assumption that all > of your harsh words towards the Christain concept of God matter, I'm > not Christian. > > As to my ridiculous idea, what do you mean? Morality is all about > doing the right or the wrong thing, when engaged in a debate about > morality, then we must talk about both. Any fool realises that > morality is subjective, and as such may be viewed as black and white, > or several shades of grey by many people. Some of whom will swear > that what you see as white is in effect black, so what you are getting > on about I have no idea. > > On 28 Mar, 00:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I've been terribly busy lately. > > > An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on > > for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that > > never happens again... > > She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor > > I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was > > almost fawning... ecckkk > > I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients... > > She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than > > be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her > > daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic > > countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape. Two > > people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an > > apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime > > punishable by death according to islam. > > > I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c > > forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. She > > attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful > > hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss > > what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without > > bruises." > > > This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while- > > put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock' > > physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam. > > > To lee: > > I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice > > to exist... > > > So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose > > love? > > > Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order > > to give us free will. > > > That's a really sick and disgusting concept. > > > Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly > > chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little > > tasteless wafer of good...." > > > Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or > > leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!" > > > Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs. > > evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god > > existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and > > experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil" > > entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god- > > myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No > > god needed. > > > My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples > > every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little > > Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says > > each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their > > daddy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
