p.s. your misplaced and rather silly condescension only looks good to
your own eyes. Try just speaking/typing.

On Apr 6, 5:25 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yo Fidds.
>
> Did I say that?  Nope I don't think I did say that at all matey.
>
> Is that how you took my actual words?
>
> Remind me where you get such Ideas Fidds?
>
> Looking at your words I can only assume I made some comment along the
> lines of 'evil exists as a consequence of God granting us free will'.
> Probably we where mulling ove that old chestnut, Why would a loving
> God allow evil?  I probably said something along the lines of what I
> have typed above here, and I may have additionaly said something like
> 'man does evil, and this is a free choice of mankind'
>
> Although I can't really remember now.
>
> Fidds, would you say that the father who fails to clamp down on his
> unruley son, and instead allows his son to make the mistakes that he
> will and thus face the consequences of his actions can be blammed for
> the misdeeds of his son?
>
> Or put another way.  Is the father who refuses to make a slave of his
> son and instead alllows his son to 'think' for himself, then
> blamewhorthy if his son turns out to be a little shit?
>
> As to the rest, rubbish I'm afraid my man.  Say what you want to say
> about God, it don't bother me, make the mistaken assumption that all
> of your harsh words towards the Christain concept of God matter, I'm
> not Christian.
>
> As to my ridiculous idea, what do you mean?  Morality is all about
> doing the right or the wrong thing, when engaged in a debate about
> morality, then we must talk about both.  Any fool realises that
> morality is subjective, and as such may be viewed as black and white,
> or several shades of grey by many people.  Some of whom will swear
> that what you see as white is in effect black, so what you are getting
> on about I have no idea.
>
> On 28 Mar, 00:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've been terribly busy lately.
>
> > An interesting moment happened lately. A woman that I ran logistics on
> > for her escape from Palestine insisted on thanking me... I hope that
> > never happens again...
> > She didn't speak English and her translator ( provided by the sponsor
> > I'd arranged here as well as get her trunk space out of palestine) was
> > almost fawning... ecckkk
> > I much prefer my charity to be unknown to it's recipients...
> > She escaped islam in Palestine and I'm very glad to help. Rather than
> > be slaughtered for "dishonouring" her daddy by being raped by her
> > daddy and her brothers (yes that still happens daily in islamic
> > countries) she chose to leave and I helped organise her escape. Two
> > people I knew were killed in the operation, one because he was an
> > apostate and the other for being with him. Yes, both are a crime
> > punishable by death according to islam.
>
> > I asked whether or not she would remain true to life and love,c
> > forgoing the cult of murder and death that I helped her escape. She
> > attempted to adjust a head covering that no longer hid her beautiful
> > hair. Looking sheepish, she responded that : "No matter how I may miss
> > what I had [family], I can actually look myself in the mirror without
> > bruises."
>
> > This may seem silly to some of you, but please -just once in a while-
> > put yourself in the place of these women that enjoy 'around the clock'
> > physical, emotional, and mental abuse. No woman deserves islam.
>
> > To lee:
> > I find such a fault in your idea that evil need exist for free choice
> > to exist...
>
> > So, according to you, A man need be able to rape in order to choose
> > love?
>
> > Your god (i draw this from your comments) HAD to create evil in order
> > to give us free will.
>
> > That's a really sick and disgusting concept.
>
> > Your god: " here people! Eat this delicious and poisonously deadly
> > chocolate cake!... or ... you know... you could have this little
> > tasteless wafer of good...."
>
> > Any other loving parent: "here's an apple, an orange, a cookie, or
> > leftovers... johnnie! get away from the poisoned rat-trap!"
>
> > Your concept is based on a ridiculous idea that there is only good vs.
> > evil, and that any choice must be between the two. If your god
> > existed, he could have given us such a variety of choice and
> > experience that it would boggle a human mind... without "evil"
> > entering the equation. Evil is a human concept and so is the silly god-
> > myth. We have the capacity for being nice and for not being nice. No
> > god needed.
>
> > My children have the free will to choose between oranges and apples
> > every single day, that is free choice. It is only a sick little
> > Canaanite separatist movement's god from around 300 b.c.e. that says
> > each child must choose between eternal damnation and slavery to their
> > daddy.

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