There are many levels from the microcosm to the macrocosm! Here is an excerpt from the paper that is linked above;
"In terms of collective consciousness, the developmental and spiritual literature describes an evolutionary progression, leading to ever widening circles of identification and care: from a particular group (marriage, family, organization, etc.), to a community (geographic, interest group, etc.), to a society or culture (national, ethnic, tribal, etc.), to all sentient beings, to Nature (ecological consciousness), to the globe (global consciousness), to the cosmos (cosmic consciousness),24 and to the Kosmos (Kosmic consciousness).25 The wisdom traditions assert that, ultimately, an individual “realizes a Self-identity with Spirit.”"-Robert Kenny Here is a working definition of the term; "A mode of awareness, in which we directly experience, through an intuitive felt-sense, our union with the interconnected wholeness of life, and recognize ourselves in others. Our identity extends beyond our individual boundary and embraces the collective, through a free and conscious act of identification, rather than through definition by convention or external authority."-Kenny On Jul 8, 3:31 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > .. collective conciousness is like a an organism yeah..with each of us > as the cells huh > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:17 AM, DarkwaterBlight > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Perhaps not kid. The asumption that parallel universes exist go hand > > in hand with spirituality, enlightenment and collective consciosness. > > The latter sometimes being described as parallel universe or at the > > very least another dimension. The fact that information can travel > > faster than the speed of light via collective consciosness goes > > against physical "law" and hence implies that there are "holes" in the > > so called empty space in our universe! Where do they go and come from? > > These "holes" have been described in theory as mini white or black > > holes and they exist every where! Through these holes (in theory) > > there is an a flux of energy or feild that flows. > > > On Jul 7, 2:09 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > i think we have deviated a lot fom where we started... > > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:22 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > No one can call his subjective beliefs as knowledge and my beliefs, > > which > > > > to me stand as proved, my opinions and insinuations. > > > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:39 AM, DarkwaterBlight < > > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> You need only to prove to yourself what you believe my friend. ;) > > > > >> On Jul 7, 1:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Prove to me and all that you are anything beyond this body as you > > > >> claim. > > > >> > Prove that you can be one with theTruth while still in this body. > > > >> Whatever > > > >> > you claim is just subjective and cannot be proved. How then can you > > ask > > > >> me > > > >> > to prove what I believe? Is that not subjective also? What is God or > > > >> Truth? > > > >> > Is that also not subjective? > > > > >> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:25 AM, vamadevananda < > > [email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > You speak as if you know. > > > > >> > > Only let know what you know, beyond your opinions and > > > >> > > insinuations ! ? > > > > >> > > On Jul 7, 9:16 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > The so-called state of enlightenment or self-realisation is > > simply a > > > >> > > state > > > >> > > > of awareness of the organism like deep-sleep state, dream-state, > > > >> awaken > > > >> > > > state. Equating the individual self or ahamkara to the Self or > > > >> Truth, God > > > >> > > , > > > >> > > > Atma is just human egoism and a desire of man to be supreme or > > God. > > > > >> > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:44 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > So I would be interested in how you shifted your attitude from > > a > > > >> > > > > relativistic subjective position like mine to what I imagined > > you > > > >> > > believe is > > > >> > > > > an objective enlightened one? I am truly interested in the > > steps > > > >> you > > > >> > > took to > > > >> > > > > get there. I also appreciate the fact that beyond a certain > > point > > > >> you > > > >> > > will > > > >> > > > > probably say that words are inadequate to describe the > > process. > > > >> However > > > >> > > some > > > >> > > > > of the process is probably describable. No? > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > > From: ashok tewari <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > >> > > > > Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 9:25 am > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > >> > > > > Cannot say much about your chain of thoughts, though > > commonplace ( > > > >> for > > > >> > > > > they're the very same that held sway over me not so long ago > > ), > > > >> because > > > >> > > they > > > >> > > > > have roots and causes within you. > > > > >> > > > > The self is not negated but known. Which isn't being superior > > - > > > >> > > inferior > > > >> > > > > but being true, without the least psychology we are all caught > > up > > > >> in. > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:45 PM, <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> You are apparently saying that awareness can be pure (free > > from > > > >> > > > >> contaminating subjectivity hence by passing interpretation). > > > >> Further > > > >> > > that > > > >> > > > >> the experience of 'pure' awareness enables the experiencer to > > > >> obtain > > > >> > > an > > > >> > > > >> assumed pre existing knowledge of everything. In that case I > > am > > > >> doomed > > > >> > > to > > > >> > > > >> experience impure awareness as it makes absolutely no sense > > to me > > > >> that > > > >> > > what > > > >> > > > >> ever I perceive does not necessarily involve something of my > > > >> personal > > > >> > > self > > > >> > > > >> added to whatever awareness I have. Further if such pure > > > >> awareness you > > > >> > > claim > > > >> > > > >> exists which I think equals the claims of the mystic's > > assertions > > > >> of > > > >> > > > >> ineffability of such pure direct awareness - then to speak of > > the > > > >> > > > >> unspeakable seems to me to be little more than an expression > > of > > > >> > > spiritual > > > >> > > > >> narcissism. To me at my age of 73 - this talk translated into > > > >> human > > > >> > > talk is > > > >> > > > >> really saying something like: I know something you don't > > know > > > >> and > > > >> > > what I > > > >> > > > >> know is vastly superior to what you know and don't play word > > > >> games > > > >> > > with me > > > >> > > > >> when I say no words can describe it because that is the truth > > and > > > >> too > > > >> > > bad > > > >> > > > >> you don't know it. > > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > >> From: Molly <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > >> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > >> Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 7:48 am > > > >> > > > >> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > >> > > > >> Very good! > > > > >> > > > >> On Jul 7, 3:58 am, ashok tewari <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > Telling doesn't help, as in wouldn't communicate. > > > > >> > > > >> > Try being without the relatedness you feel for things you > > know, > > > >> even > > > >> > > for a > > > > >> > > > >> > moment, as you do in the state of deep sleep, without > > actually > > > >> > > falling deep > > > > >> > > > >> > asleep ! > > > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM, <[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > Pray tell. > > > > >> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > > >> > > From: ashok tewari <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > > To: [email protected] > > > > >> > > > >> > > Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 2:12 am > > > > >> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > >> > > > >> > > " Or do you somehow have special knowledge?" > > > > >> > > > >> > > I do. > > > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:07 AM, <[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > >> Assuming you are a human and not the "God" you are > > > >> describing - > > > >> > > then you > > > > >> > > > >> > >> can not be certain that > > > > >> > > > >> > >> the assertions you are making about absolute reality are > > > >> > > accurate. So we > > > > >> > > > >> > >> are back to the position of Aquinas re > > > > >> > > > >> > >> faith and reason. As a man of faith you can believe > > whatever > > > >> you > > > >> > > wish and > > > > >> > > > >> > >> obviously do - but in terms of > > > > >> > > > >> > >> reason you apparently know as little for certain as the > > rest > > > >> of > > > >> > > us. Or do > > > > >> > > > >> > >> you somehow have special knowledge? > > > > >> > > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > > >> > >> From: vamadevananda <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 12:25 am > > > > >> > > > >> > >> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > >> > > > >> > >> It is unknown to us humans. It is known to God, but not > > in > > > >> the > > > >> > > manner > > > > >> > > > >> > >> in which humans relate to things known to them or to > > matters > > > >> > > unknown. > > > > >> > > > >> > >> On Jul 6, 6:36 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > But -is the future known or unknown? > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > From: Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > Sent: Tue, Jul 6, 2010 2:20 am > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > Did I not say that the future is yet to come? So, we > > live > > > >> for > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > future and whatever we do will effect the future. > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > On Jul 6, 10:01 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > If all is known then why bother to live your life. > > What > > > >> is > > > >> > > the point > > > > >> > > > >> if all > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > is already forgone? > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > From: Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > Sent: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 6:03 pm > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Parallel Universes > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > My spiritual parallel universe is the cosmos, where > > all > > > >> > > records are > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > kept past and present is all there, the future is > > yet to > > > >> come > > > >> > > and > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > nobody knows anything about it, in the cosmos of the > > > >> universe > > > >> > > is where > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > God resides that is why God knows everything. > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > On Jul 5, 1:38 pm, "pol.science kid" < > > > >> [email protected]> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > I guess parallel universes have a slight > > difference of > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
