" ... whole universe ... " Which would include what is known to YOU and all that YOU do not know.
I'd find it very foolish if I were to negate something I know nothing about ! That would be what children are likely to do, wishing in and wishing away ... rather meaninglessly ! When Nietzsche found " God is dead," he negates the God in our knowledge, belief and imagination. Which then becomes meaningful. What does your negation of the " whole universe " mean ? To YOU ? It is easy to talk, RP. It means nothing, if it means nothing to YOU ! On Aug 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Everything means the whole universe and if you exist separately from the > universe , I , of course , don't include you. > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:49 AM, ashok tewari <[email protected]>wrote: > >> " By everything is meant everything ..." >> >> What is " everything " to a child is not the same as what ' everything ' >> would mean to an adult ... it is only what YOU conceive of the inclusions ! >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I cannot perceive the distant parts of the universe and I can't even >>> imagine what they are , but someone out there sees them and doesn't see me. >>> Does that mean that there are many perceptions and many negations ., does >>> it mean you see and I do not see? And I see and you do not see? Vam , you >>> are being ridiculous and I am speaking for the idea and not for you. By >>> everything is meant everything , all the elements which have a rudimentary >>> type of consciousness they also are not.The entire universes are alive in >>> the sense that there is vibration everywhere and by nothing is meant total >>> absence of vibration meaning nothing , just the abstract intelligence and >>> existence. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:46 AM, ashok tewari <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> " When we say that the universe came out of nothing we mean the >>>> negation of everything." >>>> >>>> Correction : Everything ... limited to what YOU perceive, experience, >>>> imagine or know, or can in future. >>>> >>>> That would still leave much else ... all that you do not or cannot feel, >>>> think, imagine or know. Why is it so difficult to accept this truism ? >>>> >>>> Search yourself. How can YOU negate what you do not perceive, >>>> experience, feel, think of, imagine or know ? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:36 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> When we say that the universe came out of nothing we mean the negation >>>>> of everything. And what is the intelligence which is nothing or the >>>>> negation >>>>> of everything , it is existence. You cannot call existence to exist >>>>> because >>>>> it is the basis of that which exist. You read the ancient upanisads and >>>>> maybe you will have the groundwork that goes into understanding God , >>>>> Reality , Truth or Atman. I prefer Atman before Brahman because I don't >>>>> believe in individual souls. To me we are all just ahamkaras or egos and >>>>> have just this lifetime and it is Atman who is in everything animate and >>>>> inanimate and it is existence and intelligence itself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM, facilitator <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am back for a bit. Just thought I would give everyone a heads up. >>>>>> Something I have allowed to bolster my understanding of the human >>>>>> condition.....People are messed up. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Philosophy is good for nothing, that's good, since nothing doesn't >>>>>> exist". >>>>>> (Murray) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ASHOK TEWARI >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ASHOK TEWARI >> > > -- ASHOK TEWARI
