Ashok , you are a Hindu and from what I have gathered of the advaita fold. What is neti neti Will you please explain to me what it means?
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:54 AM, ashok tewari <[email protected]> wrote: > " ... whole universe ... " > > Which would include what is known to YOU and all that YOU do not know. > > I'd find it very foolish if I were to negate something I know nothing about > ! That would be what children are likely to do, wishing in and wishing away > ... rather meaninglessly ! > > When Nietzsche found " God is dead," he negates the God in our knowledge, > belief and imagination. Which then becomes meaningful. > > What does your negation of the " whole universe " mean ? To YOU ? > > It is easy to talk, RP. It means nothing, if it means nothing to YOU ! > > On Aug 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Everything means the whole universe and if you exist separately from the >> universe , I , of course , don't include you. >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:49 AM, ashok tewari <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> " By everything is meant everything ..." >>> >>> What is " everything " to a child is not the same as what ' everything ' >>> would mean to an adult ... it is only what YOU conceive of the inclusions ! >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I cannot perceive the distant parts of the universe and I can't even >>>> imagine what they are , but someone out there sees them and doesn't see me. >>>> Does that mean that there are many perceptions and many negations ., does >>>> it mean you see and I do not see? And I see and you do not see? Vam , you >>>> are being ridiculous and I am speaking for the idea and not for you. By >>>> everything is meant everything , all the elements which have a rudimentary >>>> type of consciousness they also are not.The entire universes are alive in >>>> the sense that there is vibration everywhere and by nothing is meant total >>>> absence of vibration meaning nothing , just the abstract intelligence and >>>> existence. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:46 AM, ashok tewari <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> " When we say that the universe came out of nothing we mean the >>>>> negation of everything." >>>>> >>>>> Correction : Everything ... limited to what YOU perceive, experience, >>>>> imagine or know, or can in future. >>>>> >>>>> That would still leave much else ... all that you do not or cannot >>>>> feel, think, imagine or know. Why is it so difficult to accept this truism >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> Search yourself. How can YOU negate what you do not perceive, >>>>> experience, feel, think of, imagine or know ? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:36 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> When we say that the universe came out of nothing we mean the negation >>>>>> of everything. And what is the intelligence which is nothing or the >>>>>> negation >>>>>> of everything , it is existence. You cannot call existence to exist >>>>>> because >>>>>> it is the basis of that which exist. You read the ancient upanisads and >>>>>> maybe you will have the groundwork that goes into understanding God , >>>>>> Reality , Truth or Atman. I prefer Atman before Brahman because I don't >>>>>> believe in individual souls. To me we are all just ahamkaras or egos and >>>>>> have just this lifetime and it is Atman who is in everything animate and >>>>>> inanimate and it is existence and intelligence itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM, facilitator <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am back for a bit. Just thought I would give everyone a heads up. >>>>>>> Something I have allowed to bolster my understanding of the human >>>>>>> condition.....People are messed up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Philosophy is good for nothing, that's good, since nothing doesn't >>>>>>> exist". >>>>>>> (Murray) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ASHOK TEWARI >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ASHOK TEWARI >>> >> >> > > > -- > ASHOK TEWARI >
