“You do what you do because that’s what the harmony of the universe
requires,”  RamDas, "Be Here Now"

On Sep 29, 2:13 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
>   Every time I try to respond to this it seems I am a different person
> and can't make any sense. Things are changing rapidly now, and I
> switched from recreational research in evenings to work related research
> to make pace with recovery and development efforts. The greatest changes
> are my history, it is strange but it seems like once or twice a week now
> my perception changes dramatically regarding who and where I have been.
> A shock came last week when I made an intentional experiment, and saw
> myself as a 50 year old man which was not too shocking except that I
> became him in an instant and saw the progression of life until now. What
> I saw was a child (myself), and being free from him was beyond
> comprehension, many things I've known and not understood. This is
> something I have no idea how to convey, it seems so alien and beyond
> ontogenesis. This probably belongs in psk's thread but what to write
> here has been on my mind frequently. I've been riding the wave if you
> will and it is bringing good things to me, but facing many challenges
> I've been stuck with for a long time. How does one turn their back on
> onesself? It is like leaving a most intimate friend.
>
> Best Regards,
> Me?
>
> On 9/12/2010 11:26 PM, gruff wrote:
>
>
>
> > "... On Sep 12, 12:57 am, Ash<[email protected]>  wrote: ... "
>
> >> In some situations I have a tend toward hypervigilance
> > Hypervigilance can be useful as long as it doesn't wind up in
> > paranoia, but given bouts of depression and anxiety, it probably
> > does.  Trigger points for what?  To break out of the fugue or to do
> > something else?
>
> > I doubt many are ready for parenthood when it befalls them.  Even
> > though I was convinced that my line had to end with me because of the
> > socio-psychological defects, I failed to get a vasectomy until I was
> > in my early 40s and have never used a condom.  I think there were some
> > testosterone issues involved.  I also had some sense that I was too
> > selfish to be a parent.  I didn't want something around my neck that
> > would demand responsibility and tenacity from me.  I wanted my life to
> > be my own.  But the latter never fully dawned on me till I had a
> > squalling, smelly bundle of baby in the house.  I took an easy out.
> > Both mother and daughter left me when my kid was six months old and I
> > never went after them.  I've don't se anything appealing about baby
> > humans.  Now puppies and other animals are a different ballgame.
>
> > But that's me.  It sounds like you had a lot of serious misgivings and
> > confidence issues but you stepped up and did what you had to do in
> > spite of -- or maybe because of -- the darkness to which you
> > descended.  It sounds like your realization of the responsibilities
> > involved overwhelmed you but again you did what you had to do.
>
> > You had a drinking problem for a short time but when you realized it
> > was causing you to fail your responsibilities as a father you put it
> > down.  That's quite an accomplishment.
>
> > I don't think having been through a dark period necessarily requires
> > going back, especially if it causes that much pain.  Now if I felt you
> > were in denial, then I might recommend revisiting the fear till you
> > faced up to it, but you don't sound in denial.  If anything it sounds
> > like you might be taking too much of the responsibility and blame.
>
> > In fact, I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps you are caught up in
> > guilt.  Especially if your background is Jewish or Catholic.  Both are
> > big dealers in guilt as a means of punishment and motivation.  Guilt
> > can do strange things to a normal human mind, cause much self-
> > destruction and self-inflicted pain.
>
> > Passive personality also fits in with guilt.  Typical Woody Allen
> > complex.  Have you ever seen any of his films?  Does he make you
> > uncomfortable?  If so, look deeper here.
>
> > Do you ever feel as though a breakthrough or enlightenment is just
> > around the corner, up the next block, across the street, in the next
> > person you meet ... but you never seem to get there or find them.
> > Just some random thoughts here.  I felt like that quite often in my
> > teens, twenties and thirties.  I didn't begin to come into my own
> > until my forties.  Then I started spreading the news: Life does begin
> > at forty.  Actually it begin whenever a person is ready for it to
> > begin.  For some, life (i.e., being relatively confident in yourself
> > in most all situations) beings young.  Me, I was a late bloomer.  But
> > in some in never begins.  Sounds like you're pretty close.  You can't
> > go through the sort of mental examination and rigorous questioning you
> > are doing without learning some very real things about yourself.
>
> > As for the tale of using a recording device to refresh the old woman's
> > memory before her son visited, that was the only time I've had a
> > chance to actually see the results.  But it makes sense, at least
> > enough to give it a try.
>
> > Your actual memory problems are beyond my knowledge and capabilities
> > but it sounds like there might be some self-destructiveness involved
> > in the mix.  Some of the things we can do to ourselves, and
> > unknowingly as well, are shocking.
>
> > Have you tried any form of therapy?  I'm not talking a psychiatrist.
> > For the most part all they want to do is give you chemicals.  I'm
> > talking about psychology.  I received far more actual help from a
> > psychologist than I ever did from the two shrinks I saw.
>
> > But finding the right psychologist can be a job in itself.  It's like
> > finding the right combination of medicines that works for your own
> > particular brand of high blood pressure.  You have to be able to feel
> > comfortable with the person and to develop a strong trust in them.  It
> > took me a while before I found one with whom I worked well.  I learned
> > a lot in the year of weekly visits and have never felt the need for
> > one since.
>
> > Do you indulge in any sort of drug use?  It doesn't sound like it,
> > from what you've told me about your experience with alcohol.  Have
> > you ever tried mild tranquilizers such as 5mg of Valium?  They can
> > slow a person down sufficiently to more or less let you catch up to
> > yourself.  I don't particularly like Valium because it blots out
> > creativity but marijuana works just fine for me -- except I can't get
> > it on my prescription drug plan.  Not yet anyway.

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