Hmm I have read part of it . some what interesting and if you have nothing else it could be totally fascinating I like work but it means little and I can often times see the purpose, reading what you say work without attachment. you make it sound difficult really is it as you want it to be ,, sounds more like an self fulfilling prophecy personally I like work simply because I enjoy working
Yes you often reiterate old teachers , but does that mean you understand what they are actually saying? RP the purpose and function is to get to know God and that applies to every one, is it going to happen? The entirety of your being both body and soul is totally contained with in God (no matter what name you want to call him.) the other is to do his will for you and for each person it is different. By responding to the world around you in reality you are responding to God the creator.These request of God are often times very quiet and subtle.If you don't respond well then you just simple don't. You tell me RP to open my eyes and accept the certainty of death and salvation. Do you even know what death is and what salvation is? Allan On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > When a person loses wealth or name he becomes depressed whereas a > person who has attained to the calm of self-mastery remains cool and > composed as he has ever a spirit of detachment from all worldly > things. But that doesn't mean that he becomes a zombie as he acts and > behaves normally , doing all necessary work and making efforts without > the attachment associated with such work. This view has been put forth > by many great teachers and I am only reiterating it --- read the > bhagwadgita and you may find something of what I am saying clearly > enunciated there. People go in search of the elusive self as if it > were somewhere underneath wraps , whereas the truth is it is right > there before you and you fail to see it. > The Self is that Nothing of which scientist speak from which the > universe has emanated and to which it will go---and if you think that > you will be able to grasp it within your hand , you have lot to learn. > You ask me to learn but all that you speak of has been gathering dust > in books and folklore , why don't you just open your eyes and accept > the certainty of death and salvation. > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for Allan before > > butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely on the basis > of > > Individuality, but that there is a separation between things such that we > > are striving for our own nullification in a process of spiritual division > > then multiplication, while at the same time we are speaking of an eternal > > and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the greatest height that > any > > teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed be The truth, > > however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it as the only > > destination. The definition of self-realization may also be a half-truth, > > depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization is a mere > > perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it is just one step > of > > the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply (and all of that may > > fall within another mastery). > > > > I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time, wherever it may > > lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many dimensions of > > existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell I'd flip > upside > > down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we are and what > > possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take us, or what we > > could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I suppose even if > > they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and many arts so > long > > as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make them- tools > handed > > down for us to build on. > > > > I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts, could you offer > more > > insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief? > > > > On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote: > > > > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn > > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when people set the > > conditions for something they can never exceed them because they have set > > the only conditions they have set. sadder still it becomes a self > > fulfilling prophecy . > > Allan > > > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> The nearest a person can get to a state of Self-realization while > >> still in this body is to attain to the calm of self-mastery , that is > >> , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and adverse > >> circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of detachment while > >> doing all works to the best of one's ability. > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to > >> > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible. > >> > > >> > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some are > >> >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others despicable; > >> >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made from > >> >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and find > >> >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but never > >> >> experienced while in this body. > > > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
