I know Rigsy they are just a house of snakes up there,, the english invasion of Ireland they were trying to blame on the Dutch.. it was Cromwell's reward by the english crown,, Still a bunch of snakes just like thier name sakes Allan
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:55 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > The Protestants of Northern Ireland are also known as Orangemen. > > On Oct 10, 7:22 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> Nah orange is the Netherlands,,, comes from the house of orange.. >> and yes the royal family like all royal families are houses of >> snakes.. >> >> Yes dream wizard in place; need regular reports so we can fix the errors >> lol >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > What interesting dreams from an interesting person. Could orange >> > snakes represent Northern Ireland? I usually dream about people and >> > interactions- mostly people I really know/have known and am often >> > surprised that they made it into my dreams. Maybe it's unfinished >> > business? I think some part of dreams is like cleaning up the computer >> > via the "dream wizard"- but what do I know?//Re UFO's, etc.- it seems >> > to be humans have a universal hunger for alternative worlds of some >> > sort whether myth, religion or outer space due primarily because of >> > their disappointments and frustrations with real life. And some >> > worldly ambitions/cultures also fill this need via false hopes and day >> > dreams. >> >> > On Oct 9, 2:50 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Every time we think about a possible future, we tear up the pages of >> >> our autobiographies and stitch together the fragments into a montage >> >> that represents the new scenario. This process is the key to foresight >> >> and ingenuity, but it comes at the cost of accuracy, as our >> >> recollections become frayed and shuffled along the way. It's not >> >> surprising that we confuse memories and imagination, considering that >> >> they share so many processes. >> >> I'm sure from the way Bill handles words he knows he may: >> >> 1 - have seen a UFO >> >> 2 - dreamed he was seeing a UFO or hallucinated >> >> 3 - be making up the story (no accusations) >> >> >> Trauma is very difficult to pin to actual experience and origin. >> >> There are real victims who tell stories that aren't true and people >> >> who were never victims who claim to be (as in the 'experts' or ritual >> >> abuse). My own 'UFO' was in a time of dreams when in therapy after >> >> some nasty stuff. It started as a swan, became Concorde and then flew >> >> off to the stars. Other dreams included me killing a tiger (that slid >> >> under my bedroom door cartoon-style) and walking up river with orange >> >> snakes passing me by until one turned to bite me becoming a glove >> >> puppet. I killed the tiger with an ashtray made from an eight-inch >> >> shell casing and really broke a floorboard. The glove puppet was my >> >> old dog (Arthur). I was saved by my father having opened my bedroom >> >> window with some intent to fly. I have had nightmares ever since at >> >> this time of year - the images are always fantastic and not obviously >> >> connected to the real lousy experience I can rationally explain. >> >> >> Voyager is a UFO now having finally left the solar system. I know of >> >> no reports in which the aliens show us a better world and way to live. >> >> >> On 9 Oct, 14:54, William L Houts <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi James! >> >> >> > You know, I can really see from the psychology angle, too. You remind >> >> > me that Carl Jung was very interested in the phenomenon, and saw the >> >> > appearance of UFO's as emblematic of wholeness and integration. OF >> >> > course, he hadn't seen abduction folks waking up with night terrors. >> >> >> > As for me, I don't really know where I stand. As I noted in one of my >> >> > original posts, I have actually seen a flying saucer, though it didn't >> >> > strike me then and still doesn't strike me now as a very extraordinary >> >> > event. But then, like Zaphod Beelebrox of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to >> >> > the Galaxy", I've seen some weird stuff --some weird, paranormal stuff, >> >> > not to put too fine a point on it. Even so, I tend to see those things >> >> > as a kind of sideshow. The real stuff concerns questions like, "How are >> >> > we going to feed all these people?", "How should the world's resources >> >> > be accounted for and distributed in a world facing gross pollution and >> >> > incresingly scarce resources?", and finally "Where is fancy bred? In the >> >> > heart, or in the head?" >> >> >> > --Bill >> >> >> > On 10/8/2012 7:32 PM, James wrote: >> >> >> > > Hello Bill, welcome to the group. Don't take me with any authority but >> >> > > I lean toward the psychology opinion on this, but then I haven't >> >> > > specifically had any reason to categorize any of my own experiences as >> >> > > an 'encounter', 'abduction' or cross-pollination attempt. Purely out >> >> > > of the privilege of ignorance on my part, for brevity. >> >> >> > > We've been experimenting with genetic manipulation for some time now, >> >> > > albeit in a rudimentary fashion mostly. I imagine that a species >> >> > > advanced enough for interstellar or dimensional travel would be >> >> > > further ahead in that area too. The hard part is imagining what need >> >> > > there would be, why bother to sample more than a few, why not grab >> >> > > bushmen and keep a low profile? >> >> >> > > If we ignore the technology assumption and replace it with a species >> >> > > that evolved radically different from us and quickly or fundamentally >> >> > > relied on things we can't imagine our tech doing yet then there might >> >> > > be some value in what we would see as a devolutionary approach, >> >> > > whereas the species gains immense knowledge by merging with other >> >> > > advanced species (or a sampling, not necessarily most advanced but >> >> > > they would seem most viable), that otherwise they couldn't achieve >> >> > > naturally. From the merge can be derived valuable adaptations and >> >> > > characteristics which they could incubate as long as needed or just >> >> > > pack up and move on while building an interstellar genetic library. Or >> >> > > they might just be preparing us for the overlord species to arrive. >> >> > > heh >> >> >> > > On 10/8/2012 3:54 PM, William L Houts wrote: >> >> >> > >> Heh, I sort of expected that the topics discussed here are somewhat >> >> > >> more >> >> > >> serious than alien abductions and the rest of the fare which gets >> >> > >> served >> >> > >> on the George Noory radio show. I can do that, but for now I guess >> >> > >> I'll >> >> > >> watch from the sidelines until there's something I can really swat >> >> > >> with >> >> > >> my conversational tennis raquet. In the meantime, here's sending >> >> > >> beneficent zen rays to you, my lightning-smart Net friends. >> >> >> > >> --Bill >> >> >> > >> On 10/8/2012 11:16 AM, Allan H wrote: >> >> > >>> LOL Bill you need to be talking to an old friend of mine Dad >> >> > >>> Woodruff he is the fanatic that knows all about alien abductions.. >> >> > >>> last I heard is was in the Livingston Montana area,, He was semi >> >> > >>> involved with the church universal triumphant '' or at least his >> >> > >>> friends are. Dan has a very brilliant mind,, sometimes stretching >> >> > >>> the >> >> > >>> edge.. and can react very paranoid.. If you find him tell him I said >> >> > >>> hi and luud sends her greetings too.. that should get you in the >> >> > >>> door. >> >> > >>> Allan >> >> >> > >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:52 PM, William L Houts <[email protected]> >> >> > >>> wrote: >> >> >> > >>>> This may be returning to a point in the conversation which we have >> >> > >>>> long >> >> > >>>> since passed, but I'm still interested in the UFO thing. I've >> >> > >>>> talked a >> >> > >>>> little about my one underwhelming UFO encounter, but I'm still >> >> > >>>> interested in >> >> > >>>> some of the UFO baggage which has yet gone unpacked. In particular, >> >> > >>>> I'm >> >> > >>>> interested in the alien abduction meme. What are these people >> >> > >>>> dealing >> >> > >>>> with? >> >> > >>>> They say, among other things, that aliens --Greys, Reptilians, and >> >> > >>>> Nordics >> >> > >>>> among other varieties-- are breeding them with alien races to >> >> > >>>> create >> >> > >>>> hybrids. Well. It hardly seems possible, as any offworld species, >> >> > >>>> having >> >> > >>>> evolved many light years away would hardly be compatible with Earth >> >> > >>>> reproductive biology. And yet, I feel there's something compelling >> >> > >>>> in >> >> > >>>> these >> >> > >>>> accounts. Debunkers and critics claim these are sophisticated >> >> > >>>> sexual >> >> > >>>> fantasies, but I really don't think so. Most abduction experiencers >> >> > >>>> ("experiencers")report reactions of feeling raped rather than >> >> > >>>> ennobled by >> >> > >>>> these experiences. Betty and Barney Hill, probably the original >> >> > >>>> parents of >> >> > >>>> the modern abduction account, were recorded during their >> >> > >>>> post-abduction >> >> > >>>> therapy sessions and can be heard screaming in terror. Jacques >> >> > >>>> Valee, >> >> > >>>> whom I have referred to in the opening message of this thread, >> >> > >>>> compares this >> >> > >>>> abduction story to medieval accounts of abductions by fairies. >> >> >> > >>>> I really don't think guys in space ships are raping earthfolk, but >> >> > >>>> something >> >> > >>>> unusual is going on, and I would like to know, or at least >> >> > >>>> speculate, on >> >> > >>>> what exactly is going on. Are these Space Age religious >> >> > >>>> experiences, >> >> > >>>> dressed >> >> > >>>> up in Star Trek costume? >> >> >> > >>>> --Bill >> >> >> > >>>> On 10/8/2012 4:05 AM, rigsy03 wrote: >> >> > >>>>> There is an area of the brain that stores certain memories. Also, >> >> > >>>>> I >> >> > >>>>> think memories can be provoked through associations (Proust).But >> >> > >>>>> this >> >> > >>>>> is an individual journey- not an explanation of our existence as a >> >> > >>>>> species. Since we are derived from fish I am hoping I was once a >> >> > >>>>> wily >> >> > >>>>> rainbow trout.:-) Anyway- I think memory makes sense of the past. >> >> > >>>>> Beliefs are wishful thoughts that will reward our behavior until >> >> > >>>>> proven otherwise- in this life and after death- but it does not >> >> > >>>>> successfully explain what has happened to all those anonymous >> >> > >>>>> millions. >> >> >> > >>>>> On Oct 7, 5:01 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>> I believe in the possibility of something god-like. I doubt this >> >> > >>>>>> has >> >> > >>>>>> much to do with meeting it second left past the burning bush. >> >> > >>>>>> Even >> >> > >>>>>> the prophet we dare not mention seems to have been created in >> >> > >>>>>> retro to >> >> > >>>>>> control the new empire. Origin is endlessly deferred or >> >> > >>>>>> nachtraglich >> >> > >>>>>> and it is interesting we don't carry the memories on our journey >> >> > >>>>>> and >> >> > >>>>>> yet respond to fellowship and wider demands of the extended >> >> > >>>>>> phenotype. Memory, false or otherwise, seems to be about making >> >> > >>>>>> sense >> >> > >>>>>> of the future. UFOs may be about of concerns, as in religion, as >> >> > >>>>>> to >> >> > >>>>>> why we are here. I am protestant by inclination, finding >> >> > >>>>>> organised >> >> > >>>>>> religion a control fraud. It could be our memories are unpacking >> >> > >>>>>> when >> >> > >>>>>> our god-spots do their thing. It's interesting in general that we >> >> > >>>>>> see >> >> > >>>>>> things that don't exist like demons, UFOs and visions. >> >> >> > >>>>>> On 4 Oct, 16:34, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > >>>>>>> I do not think the schools are looking for the brightest but >> >> > >>>>>>> rather >> >> > >>>>>>> they >> >> > >>>>>>> are deliberately dumbing students down. Guess it is to keep them >> >> > >>>>>>> from >> >> > >>>>>>> learning to think for themselves. >> >> > >>>>>>> Allan >> >> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >> >> > >>>>>>> wrote: >> >> > >>>>>>>> Not many are willing to put up with the chaos and violence of >> >> > >>>>>>>> public >> >> > >>>>>>>> schools plus those who can afford it are thinking of the future >> >> > >>>>>>>> contacts and colleges they want for their children. Parents are >> >> > >>>>>>>> sick >> >> > >>>>>>>> of the cultural garbage. >> >> > >>>>>>>> On Oct >> >> >> ... >> >> >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > -- >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >> >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
