Yep, just because Allan needs the "allocation class" (ModGods sounds less
stylish) doesn't mean we all need Mr Right.

2015-02-17 20:31 GMT+01:00 archytas <[email protected]>:

> It isn't that bleak Allan.  Andrew has the basic description right.
> People generally refuse to see the bigger picture these developments are
> exposing.
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 6:34:02 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Dream on Andrew, sorry and I already your are going to say I am full of
>> shit,,  by it is okay..  all own source is good for is ease in hacking.. I
>> will watch people do the delusional twisters.
>> A few people will always maintain machine language you are lucky because
>> they are not interested in delusional dead.. beware through he people who
>> will employ them are rue control freaks. The safety net is within numbers
>> and time, the segmentation ability is where the secret lies..
>>
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 5:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be?
>>
>> You can get a better explanation of the blockchain from the internet than
>> I can give you. But as I like to simplify complicated things, I will give
>> it a try. The blockchain is a public ledger that is kept by volunteers. The
>> volunteers document transactions made by users.The ledger is verifyied by
>> consensus of the volunteers. The the only way that ledger can be falsified
>> is that 51% of the volunteers that maintain the ledger all have to agree to
>> a falsified version of the ledger. The users broadcast a transaction they
>> want to include in that ledger, and the volunteers transcribe that
>> transactions in that ledger.  There is no centralized point of control, as
>> the ledger is distributed by the volunteers.  The transactions can be
>> Bitcoins, a cryptocurrency that apparently can not be falsified due to the
>> encryption it uses, or any other transactions, like ownership of assets, or
>> contracts. The blockchain is refereed to as a "trust-less system" in that
>> you do not have to trust a centralized authority to maintain that ledger,
>> as there are none. The protocol that is used for the blockchain is an open
>> source program that prevents anyone compromising that protocol without
>> everyone else knowing about any changes that might compromise it. The
>> entire system is of course very complicated. The main aspects that allow
>> such a system to be implemented is the mathematics of cryptology, the
>> internet, the distributed network of computers, and geeks that maintain
>> that network not because they want to hack or control it, but because they
>> want to keep it honest. I hope that helps.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 3:56:22 PM UTC+1, Gabby wrote:
>>>
>>> I am interested in empowerment tools. What is the blockchain technology,
>>> Andrew? First what it is and then what is does, okay? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey :
>>>
>>>> I have been thinking about your post Niel.
>>>> The internet connects people via their computers. That is very
>>>> empowering. especially to the owners of centralized computers that offer
>>>> porn, entertainment,  commerce and information. It is however the
>>>> decentralized form of the internet that is truly empowering, enabling
>>>> people globally to freely communicate and share information without the
>>>> control of centralized powers.  The blockchain technology is the most
>>>> empowering. It frees people to make money transactions without banks, legal
>>>> transactions without lawyers, and allows people to vote and voice their
>>>> opinions without politicians.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 3:41:22 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of my use of the internet concerns researching pretty dire
>>>>> academic papers and books through still largely restricted access.  It's
>>>>> much cheaper than buying the stuff directly, particularly as 99% of what
>>>>> shows up is dross.  I've played with the rest to find out what is there.
>>>>> Search is a big plus compared with rooting through stuff in a university
>>>>> library.  Now, much google search just turns up dross I don't want.
>>>>>
>>>>> In an academic project we are interested in what is on the net
>>>>> generally - in terms of how much of general consciousness this represents.
>>>>> Rational discussion is a tiny part of what is on the net.  Techies spend a
>>>>> lot of time looking for cut and paste code and ways we might automate this
>>>>> sweep.  There is a background idea that we are looking for new ways to do
>>>>> 'expert knowledge' on the metaphor of people not being able to build cars
>>>>> but able to drive them with a bit of training.  My own bad is 'big data' 
>>>>> as
>>>>> a new language that would bring a different speed to human discourse and
>>>>> potentially control of the means of production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lately, I'm interested in the lack of a business model for anything
>>>>> except trash.  I can join a site where a couple of young women will send 
>>>>> me
>>>>> off-the-peg clothes on approval to ensure my sartorial elegance, though
>>>>> don't.  There are plenty of interesting Moochs, but I don't have time.  I
>>>>> bank n line and have the joy of never seeing a bank clerk. Shopping can be
>>>>> done in the same manner as shops don't interest me at all.  My insurance
>>>>> renewals are always 30% higher than I can get the same cover for via one 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the broker sites on the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do electronic teaching.  So I'm no longer racked by whatever
>>>>> diseases undergraduate classes try to kill me with.  And I never see a 
>>>>> boss
>>>>> or have to attend a useless staff meeting, or have my classes flooded as
>>>>> the students discover I'm an easier touch and tell jokes.  The work is 
>>>>> more
>>>>> or less pre-prepared and my timetable is not changed at ridiculous short
>>>>> notice and I don't have to take time to teach kids from other classes, at
>>>>> my door because they can't get anywhere with the guy supposed to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can watch television and films through illegal sites, but would
>>>>> really prefer to pay for channels where I could select from much wider
>>>>> material without packaging.  The current business model encourages loads 
>>>>> of
>>>>> channels with the same (usually old) dross, or stuff like Netflix with 
>>>>> only
>>>>> 1% I'd want to see and don't want to pay to support.  Sports channels
>>>>> require me to pay for soccer I don't want.  Tony has done more for me in a
>>>>> few minutes (neglecting his production time) than Sky Arts bores ever
>>>>> could.  We lack a business model of actual choice.  With one, insanestream
>>>>> news and other entertainment, the crap science pornography of the BBC,
>>>>> Discovery and so on, would be things of my past.  In chronic business
>>>>> terms, I wonder how they do market segmentation at all.  I am sick of Blue
>>>>> Peter (kids programme here) presentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> One can imagine plenty of people like the best through this group
>>>>> wanting something very different and something large enough not to be a
>>>>> part of when time presses and so on.  Uber, properly supervised against
>>>>> racist drivers, could bring very radical change - I meet few who can
>>>>> explain why - though we have not yet worked out that technology could
>>>>> massively reduce what we currently call work and planet burning.  In the
>>>>> meantime we can't even set up a discussion group without Gabby (and
>>>>> everyone really) worrying on the curtain shades.  Give us a twirl then
>>>>> girl, like one of those doxies Bruce Forsythe used to encourage.  I can 
>>>>> see
>>>>> something of a business model, starting with Chris' 'attractors'.  The
>>>>> eventual key is content for a sophisticated audience - remembering very 
>>>>> few
>>>>> people do education without any kind of accreditation pay-off and the 
>>>>> means
>>>>> to pay for organisation does not move easily from free.  Current 
>>>>> strategies
>>>>> are advertising and the begging bowl.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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