[... balls in the mirror cabinet chased by zombies....]
Am 19.02.2015 17:25 schrieb "archytas" <[email protected]>:

> Perhaps for a reply not simulating a 'why kid' from you Gabby?  With a
> world of 7 billion people, mostly in poverty and jawbs-groaf politics,
> education doesn't seem to be producing the answers we need.  How might we
> discuss this other than as a chattering class?
>
> On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 3:44:10 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Question's purpose. In this case I think  it is not to find an answer but
>> rather to stimulate  thinking and thought.
>> I think a lot of the internet is dedicated to the stone age idea of
>> filling  time with mindless and useless occupation with illusions of
>> reward. An extension of the educational system.  There are many programs
>> devoted to the florida of war and killing.  Mindless conditioning of the
>> masses . . . . . . ah hidden conditioning of the soul.. Creation of a
>> zombie state..
>>
>> Sorry couldn't  resist.. (Kidding the cackle laughter…
>>
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 4:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be?
>>
>> Yes, education could actually be part of depriving us of individuality
>> and collectivism at the same time. So? Why are you asking? What is the
>> purpose of your question?
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :
>>
>> One possibility is there isn't much to be creative about.  Some societies
>> remained in the Stone Age without much education other than ostensive
>> training in such as hacking out canoes from trees.  The vast majority of
>> entertainment and the internet is consumed with the naff, suggesting any
>> lives it reflects and is aimed at seek distraction rather than engagement.
>> Gabby's why phase occurs in communities that remain stone age too.  Schools
>> are very convenient repositories for kids - perhaps really a form of modern
>> wet-nursing.  They run on fear.  You more or less have to send your kids to
>> school and generally about 7% are sent to private institutions or venues
>> created by house prices and such to ensure an elite route.
>>
>> Creativity seems to fail us in thinking of something better.  We don't
>> even remember much of the experience ourselves, or be able to assess what
>> of schooling we use in work and activities we might enjoy.  There is
>> creative work going on but we don't seem interested in it as a public.  We
>> can't even build homes for people to live in without exasperation through
>> economics.  Could education actually be part of depriving us of
>> individuality and collectivism at the same time?
>>
>> On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 12:12:18 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Many schools depend upon regurgitated answers. I was fortunate as many of
>> my classmates were Professors brats we were used for research subjects.
>> They emphised critical thinking. The other kids had standard testing.. At
>> least they knew what to study for and the questions.
>>
>> A critical  thinking education is extremely  labor  intensive..  We were
>> fortunate a lot of labor was supplied via student teachers learning how to
>> create a learning  situation. The side arrest is all of us learned a great
>> deal about educational  methods..   None of us ever became teachers.
>> If your school teaches creative thinking.  In the US. Standardized
>>  education has become the norm.
>>
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be?
>>
>> Children start using their creative and critical abilities at some point
>> of
>> time , and Gabby , I think that is the correct thing. I was only refuting
>> Facil's observation that critical thinking is non-existent.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:46 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > The knowledge mainstreaming effect is not necessarily only to be seen
>> as a
>> > progress, RP.
>> > You see when children have their dreadful "why" phase, I am convinced
>> it
>> > is great fun for them to hear all the different tales and it would be
>> loss
>> > to reduce the creative input. What could they later come up with?
>> > Am 19.02.2015 09:19 schrieb "RP Singh" <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> >> If we only regurgitate I don't see how we have progressed so far. You
>> say
>> >> that critical thinking is non-existent , what about innumerable theses
>> >> written to make critical examinations of old masters?
>> >> Proving previous knowledge as redundant and accepting new viewpoints
>> is
>> >> the result of critical thinking.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:08 AM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <
>> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I see the problem as children are not taught how to question.  The
>> child
>> >>> that raises the hand is often laughed at and the term "Stupid
>> Question"
>> >>> comes from early education years.  Critical thinking is non existent
>> and
>> >>> replaced with regurgitation of facts.
>> >>>
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