Yep, you definitely fall in the hopeless-case category, Allan. Here is your
official confirmation!

Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 schrieb :

> Question's purpose. In this case I think  it is not to find an answer but
> rather to stimulate  thinking and thought.
> I think a lot of the internet is dedicated to the stone age idea of
> filling  time with mindless and useless occupation with illusions of
> reward. An extension of the educational system.  There are many programs
> devoted to the florida of war and killing.  Mindless conditioning of the
> masses . . . . . . ah hidden conditioning of the soul.. Creation of a
> zombie state..
>
> Sorry couldn't  resist.. (Kidding the cackle laughter…
>
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
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> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be?
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> Yes, education could actually be part of depriving us of individuality
> and collectivism at the same time. So? Why are you asking? What is the
> purpose of your question?
>
> Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 schrieb archytas :
>
>> One possibility is there isn't much to be creative about.  Some societies
>> remained in the Stone Age without much education other than ostensive
>> training in such as hacking out canoes from trees.  The vast majority of
>> entertainment and the internet is consumed with the naff, suggesting any
>> lives it reflects and is aimed at seek distraction rather than engagement.
>> Gabby's why phase occurs in communities that remain stone age too.  Schools
>> are very convenient repositories for kids - perhaps really a form of modern
>> wet-nursing.  They run on fear.  You more or less have to send your kids to
>> school and generally about 7% are sent to private institutions or venues
>> created by house prices and such to ensure an elite route.
>>
>> Creativity seems to fail us in thinking of something better.  We don't
>> even remember much of the experience ourselves, or be able to assess what
>> of schooling we use in work and activities we might enjoy.  There is
>> creative work going on but we don't seem interested in it as a public.  We
>> can't even build homes for people to live in without exasperation through
>> economics.  Could education actually be part of depriving us of
>> individuality and collectivism at the same time?
>>
>> On Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 12:12:18 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> Many schools depend upon regurgitated answers. I was fortunate as many
>>> of my classmates were Professors brats we were used for research subjects.
>>> They emphised critical thinking. The other kids had standard testing.. At
>>> least they knew what to study for and the questions.
>>>
>>> A critical  thinking education is extremely  labor  intensive..  We were
>>> fortunate a lot of labor was supplied via student teachers learning how to
>>> create a learning  situation. The side arrest is all of us learned a great
>>> deal about educational  methods..   None of us ever became teachers.
>>> If your school teaches creative thinking.  In the US. Standardized
>>>  education has become the norm.
>>>
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]>
>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be?
>>>
>>> Children start using their creative and critical abilities at some point
>>> of
>>> time , and Gabby , I think that is the correct thing. I was only
>>> refuting
>>> Facil's observation that critical thinking is non-existent.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:46 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The knowledge mainstreaming effect is not necessarily only to be seen
>>> as a
>>> > progress, RP.
>>> > You see when children have their dreadful "why" phase, I am convinced
>>> it
>>> > is great fun for them to hear all the different tales and it would be
>>> loss
>>> > to reduce the creative input. What could they later come up with?
>>> > Am 19.02.2015 09:19 schrieb "RP Singh" <[email protected]>:
>>> >
>>> >> If we only regurgitate I don't see how we have progressed so far. You
>>> say
>>> >> that critical thinking is non-existent , what about innumerable
>>> theses
>>> >> written to make critical examinations of old masters?
>>> >> Proving previous knowledge as redundant and accepting new viewpoints
>>> is
>>> >> the result of critical thinking.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:08 AM, 'facilitator' via "Minds Eye" <
>>> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I see the problem as children are not taught how to question.  The
>>> child
>>> >>> that raises the hand is often laughed at and the term "Stupid
>>> Question"
>>> >>> comes from early education years.  Critical thinking is non existent
>>> and
>>> >>> replaced with regurgitation of facts.
>>> >>>
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