Hi,
I have found a good reference for a card wall player I had in mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JBaUZo51mg
I think it would be far more straight forward to start from the scratch
instead of putting this into Deere and Tango. On the other hand It will
also work as a view setting for one of them: "Radio mode"
Finally it is only the way to get to it. Switch skin vs. Switch view
option. Remember that we had a lot more skins in Mixxx 1.1, one for
every resolution.
> I don't think "instantly usable by default" is necessary, as long as
it is easy and obvious how to configure the skin settings for a radio DJ
use case.
Yes, that is the point. A new user should be instantly be aware that
Mixxx has a radio mode, that's all.
> I suggest trying Tango and the updated Deere skins on your netbook
before deciding to put in the work to update Shade. If there are some
modifications we can make to those skins to work better for netbooks,
that would be a lot less work than updating Shade.
Yes of cause, I will do this, this is already planed.
>> How about to save the yellowish into Deere?
>> This way we can argue, that we have merged Deere and LateNight?
> Definitely not. The reason I started working on Deere was because I
like its color scheme.
Why not, you could keep the blue color schema and add a yellow one.
The colour is just a matter of taste and it was considered as beautiful
when it was introduced. Sometimes a color can also be an eye-catching
and characteristic design, even it is out of fashion.
>> Also, there's another debate that is ignored but should not, and has
to do with loading times. It is known that Deere takes nearly double the
time than Latenight to load. On a fast machine this is just a minor
thing (if you're not relaunching the application many times to test
something), but on older machines speed can be a decision to choose one
over another.
>> I don't know if it is fully consequence of using SVG vs PNG, or
other reasons apply.
> That is an issue. I'm not sure why there is such a big difference in
load times. If rendering SVGs is the issue, we could cache the rendered
SVGs in the user settings folder the first time a skin is loaded for
faster startup times after that. That way the vectors can be scaled
appropriately for the screen resolution and have faster startups.
The SVG rendering is one mayor time eater. The other are the plenty skin
options, because all of them are instantiated in the device memory.
Pre rendering the SVGs will help, but it will bypass the graphic card
rendering and scaling in Mac OS. Keeping a low end skin is IMHO more
straight forward here and solves both issues.
Am 27.05.2017 um 18:29 schrieb Be:
On 05/27/2017 11:00 AM, Josep Maria Antolin wrote:
> Also, there's another debate that is ignored but should not, and has to
> do with loading times. It is known that Deere takes nearly double the
> time than Latenight to load. On a fast machine this is just a minor
> thing (if you're not relaunching the application many times to test
> something), but on older machines speed can be a decision to choose one
> over another.
> I don't know if it is fully consequence of using SVG vs PNG, or other
> reasons apply.
That is an issue. I'm not sure why there is such a big difference in
load times. If rendering SVGs is the issue, we could cache the rendered
SVGs in the user settings folder the first time a skin is loaded for
faster startup times after that. That way the vectors can be scaled
appropriately for the screen resolution and have faster startups.
On 05/27/2017 11:00 AM, Josep Maria Antolin wrote:
I am not too good at graphics, and haven't looked much about making
skins, so I'm not be best candidate to maintain the skin, althought
seeing that the other option is removing the skin, I guess I will have
to take some time and work the todo list that you mentioned above.
I guess we could remove some of the yellow parts too, or at least make
them color schemes.
I'm not too good at graphics either, but most of what you need is
already there. It's mostly a matter of rearranging the UI with the skin
XML. There are a few new icons that will need to be made. Even if you
aren't great at graphics you can make a first draft for those icons
while working on the skin XML. Then someone who has more graphic design
skill can tweak the icons.
Speaking of which, if anyone wants to improve the new beatloop and
reloop icons in Deere 2.1, please contribute.
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