> [Platt]
> I didn't claim that philosophy is an inevitable result of having money, if
> that's what you mean by "ipso facto." 
> 
> [Arlo]
> No, I mean I deny that you have to have money before you can have
> philosophy. "Money", as I said, is a common social pattern, but whether or
> not it is part of any given social system does not influence in any way
> whether intellectual patterns will emerge there. 

Can you name a significant philosopher who lived in strict barter society?

> [Platt]
> But, money being a part of the social pattern as you agree, is necessary
> for intellect to achieve a level of its own which includes philosophy.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Money is not a necessary part of social patterns. So while social patterns
> in general are indeed required for the emergence of intellect, whether or
> not "money" is included among them does not matter. 

Again, can you name a significant philosopher who lived in a strict barter
society? In other words, what EVIDENCE can you present?

> [Platt]
> Yes, the truth sometimes arouses ire. Otherwise, why the constant character
> assassination instead of presenting evidence for your positions?   
> 
> [Arlo]
> Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Hoo boy! Short answer, I've
> given up on real dialogue, since every conversation degenerates in three
> degrees to "evil libs and their anti-freedom agenda who lie and distort
> versus noble, freedom-loving conservatives who defend truth, honor and all
> things good". I've been there a jillion times. I have every belief this
> will end there too. Its just a matter of time.
 
I've been there a jillion times too after you initiate insults which, for 
some reason (I think I know why) you expect me to ignore.  

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