[Krimel]
I don't think we need to focus on intellect to find Quality awareness.
This
Quality awareness is rooted in biology and modified through experience
But
it does not require intellect to be expressed or for that matter to be
suppressed. In other words Quality awareness is not something that needs
to
be achieved. It just is.
{Ron}
That's it exactly Krimel, this is what I'm trying to convey by
Establishing
SOM as cultural as it stands today. We need not suppress it, shed it, Or
replace it. It can however be transformed.
[Krimel]
Well for me static and dynamic are terms that refer to the relative flux
of
Quality. Rate of change, if you will. If we insist on sticking with the
levels then each of the levels is always in some state of relative
change
internally and in relation to the other levels. In fact the levels
suggest a
progressive rate of change as we ascend them.
Ron:
The levels offer a conceptual understanding of his thoughts about
evolutionary Principle, to apply them with out discrimination to the
whole body of the Moq thought seems to create confusion.
Krimel:
I don't need to tell you about the current rate of change at the social
level but an interesting article in the current issue of Scientific
American
Mind notes that in 30 western countries where data is available IQ rose
dramatically throughout the 20th century. The standard tests for IQ are
renormalized periodically so that the average IQ remains constant at
100.
However, there were several such renormalizations. The author of the
article
suggests that what was going up was the capacity for abstraction and the
use
and manipulation of categories of thought. People 100 years ago were
inclined to look things much more concretely than people of today.
Ron:
Interestingly enough, while trying to get a grip on intellect
I looked up culture then civilization and there was no clear delineation
Of what defined either except that they were defined by complexity.
Complexity was the only distinguishing characteristic between humans,
Animals and insect societies, and by your comment it seems to be growing
In complexity.
Krimel:
One can only imagine where this is heading. I would maintain that
westerners
live in a world nearly completely constructed of ideas, already. Perhaps
this has something to do with our inability to understand or be
understood
outside of the western sphere of influence.
Ron:
Also it might explain why our culture has become
increasingly viewed as narcissistic.
Krimel:
My second favorite author, William Gibson, has suggested that more and
more
people are spending more and more time in virtual space which is
entirely
synthetic. You know the kind of people I mean: those who spend lots of
time
in Norrath or Googleing or engaging in online forum discussions. Gibson,
who
has been uncannily right about such things, maintains that in the not
too
distant future people will be unable to distinguish time spent in the
virtual world from time spent in the "real" world.
Ron:
I don't know if that sounds too appealing to me, (visions of Cartman
Defecating all over his mother) I am prone to nightmares where
I can't tell what is real or dream, but that's me. Others would
Probably have a good time with not being able to distinguish.
I still struggle with regular old reality, this forum is a step out
For me. I rarely socialize beyond small talk in polite social
Situations or work for that matter. Most of my close friends are gone
And I find developing new friendships gets more difficult with age.
I am working through my issues though. I endeavor to be larger than
My fear.
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