Ham What about pre-intellectual but differentiated experience, like when my pre-linguistic nephew carries the same toy around for weeks, only to suddenly move on to a new favourite?
David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ham Priday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MD] The Top Down Fallacy > > Greetings Krimel and Gav -- > > > [Gav]: >> They are both relative terms. i am saying that choosing one >> polar option or the other is the characteristic SOM approach - >> adversarial dichotomies. pirsig's novel approach to the twin horns of >> these dilemmas was to reject both, to go between them to the >> unitary origin of both. > > [Krimel]: >> So what's the middle way between life, intelligence and consciousness >> growing organically as the conditions here support it and life being >> created or managed by a higher consciousness or absolute source? > > [Gav]: >> It can't be. experience is unitary and prior to polar >> relativisation. > > [Krimel]: >> You say experience is unitary. But isn't experience comprised of >> five senses transducing energy from the environment into electro- >> chemical patterns in the nerves. Aren't those neural patterns filtered >> through memories and emotions and organized into a whole experience? > > Gentlemen, if I may interject -- your overall concept is not in dispute. > We > are all in agreement that the experience of existence is "polarized", > "dualistic", and intellectually differentiated. We also agree that "true" > reality is "unitary", "whole" and non-relative. > > As I've suggested before, a simple re-definition of your (MoQ's) terms > would > eliminate this "apparent" dilemma and the confusion that it has caused. > > EXPERIENCE -- Conscious (intellectual) awareness of existence as a > system of differentiated objects. > > SENSIBILITY -- Pre-intellectual awareness of Value (i.e., "Quality") as > a holistic (essential) reality. > > Try this nomenclature. It works! And it will resolve your dispute. > > Essentially yours, > Ham > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
