I started this thread to discuss the question: what does Pirsig mean by SOM?
There seems to be some confusion about "objects." here are some of RMP's comments on this confusion: 101. I think the confusion here is between the “object” of a sentence (Gegenstand) and a physical object. When you call ideas “objects” you destroy the normal meaning of those terms and introduce confusion." -RMP, LC 104. Object: n. 1) Something perceptible by one or more of the senses, especially by vision or touch; a material thing. 2) A focus of attention, feeling, thought, or action. 3) The purpose, aim, or goal of a specific action or effort. 4) Abbr. obj. Grammar. a. A noun or substantive that receives or is affected by the action of a verb within a sentence. b. A noun or substantive following and governed by a preposition. 5) Philosophy. Something intelligible or perceptible by the mind. (American Heritage Dictionary) The “objects” in the MOQ refer to Definition #1. Objects are biological patterns and inorganic patterns, not thoughts or social patterns... It seems to me that in Definition #5 subjects can also be objects. Thus any distinction between them is meaningless. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
