Hi Margaret, >I've seen faith heal people and I've seen >just the idea that there might be a god >do just as many wonderful things for people. >My grandmother spent every day working >inside of a church having mother's morning >out for free for moms to leave their children under >5 so they could go shopping and not >pull their hair out. My grandmother >called a list of people every day who were >shut in's and couldn't get out of the house. >She called just to chat with them and see that >they were alright and show them that someone >was thinking about them. >I never heard her preach about god to any of these >people even though it was all done through the >methodist church.
Steve: Isn't there a way to keep these positive results of religion without all the dogma that divides us? There are good reasons for doing good things. Isn't it better for people to do good things for good reasons than to do good things for bad reasons? I think it would be even more virtuous to do good things out of a sense of solidarity with fellow human beings and compassion than because god will reward us or punish us or smile down on us. margaret: >I have to say I think she did a lot better for >people than you will do showing them that >there isn't a god and they have to think for themselves - >which will more than likely fill them with >fear and anxiety - because for a lot of people - >not having something to believe in is very >disconcerting. Steve: I have to admit that I wouldn't want to be the one to convince an old lady that she wasted most of her life serving an imaginary god. Margaret: >I agree that what Henry Fonday subjected >his children to, seems barbaric and >absurd - BUT I also think that there are plenty >of MD's out there (the new priests) who >(under the guise of their science and the >medical party line) are doling out plenty >of prescriptions for useless products - >(were several million people all >Prozac deficient all this time?) Steve: This isn't a counter-argument. It is another side of the same coin. I think the answer to this problem is also that people need to learn to be more skeptical of authority and apply reason. Margaret: >- trying to convince someone else why they >should not buy into organized religion is >just as static but even more small minded. Steve: Why is it static and small minded? Regards, Steve Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
