Chris:
> A poem.. Yes. Good point. I have often compared the
> MOQ to a poem, it's beauty anyway.
> So where does a poem belong in a MOQ universe? Yes,
> good question. I'd call upon Bo to answer this,
> And now I have to go to hear about 19th century
> Russia =)
SA: There are many kinds of poems, but how about the
poetic story I recently wrote, for an example, called
"bridge musing". One can intellectualize patterns in
story. One could also notice something dynamic
happening where you might intellectualize something on
your own, in your own experience (static patterns are
embedded with dynamic quality see in the moq.org in
the link called forum found at the bottom of the home
page:
"Subjects, Objects, Data and Values" by Robert M
Pirsig)
Poetry understands what analogy is. Poetry
understands the menu and the food on the plate analogy
that Steve recently requoted from Pirsig. This is
what Joseph Campbell has to say on poetry (notice
Campbell's 'Masks of God' was mentioned in Lila) as
follows:
"The mythology, consequently, remains fluid, as
poetry; and the gods are not literally concretized,
like Yahweh in the garden, but are known to be just
what they are: personifications brought into being by
the human creative imagination. They are realities,
in as much as they represent forces both of the
macrocosm and of the microcosm, the world without and
the world within. However, in as much as they are
known only by reflection in the mind, they partake of
the faults of that medium-and this fact is perfectly
well known to the Creek poets, as it is known to all
poets (though not, it would appear, to priests and
prophets). The Greek tales of the gods are playful,
humorous, at once presenting and dismissing the
images; lest the mind, fixed upon them in awe, should
fail to go past them to the ultimately unknown, only
partially intuited, realities and reality that they
reflect."
- "Oriental Mythology: The Masks of God"
(Chapter 1)
SA continues: "...lest the mind, fixed upon them in
awe, should fail to go past them to the ultimately
unknown..." This is what I find poetry to do. To
throw one (in an analogous sense) from static patterns
into an experience that is dynamic.
Hope the Russian history was interesting...
snowy, white, with brown bark,
SA
P.S. It's amazing how many of us were quietly
listening/reading the discussions for some time now,
Ian, dmb, myself, and others, and then smack! - lot's
of interjection recently.
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