OK Ron, SA, Marsha, understood, but .... Whatever the allusion to Marsha's poetry, bridge sounded a bit static as a metaphor for something flowing / dynamic / process. Hence my confusion.
Ian On 2/13/08, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian, > The bridge exists because of the things > The things exist because of the bridge. > Value requires distinction. > The process of distinction is a flowing bridge > That neither begins nor ends. > A metaphor for process. > The connectedness of all things. > > -Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ian > glendinning > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MD] MOQ levels > > SA, Ron, > > I haven't quite picked-up on the context of Ron's "bridge" metaphor here > ? > > Clearly (dynamic) quality is about connections ... a relationship, an > interaction, a participation ... subject-interaction-object as a more > fundametal atom than either subject or object. > > So I would see the bridging - the bridge AND the things bridged - as > the "quality". > I may have missed your point ? > > Ian > > On 2/13/08, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ron, and Ian, > > > > > > > SA previously: > > > We could stick to some points that I was > > > looking forward to hearing a response from you. It > > does > > > seem you are making a 'all is intellect' approach. > > I > > > remember when you posted here that you told your > > > child that this is 'all in the mind' (to > > paraphrase). Did > > > I remember this correctly? > > > How do you view the early solar system when > > > humankind wasn't around? > > > > > > > Ron: > > > You get me wrong, I've been saying our perception > > > is limited and distorted. I say how we understand > > > objects is 90% of how objects are viewed. When many > > > understand them in a like manner they take on a > > reality of their > > > own. Just as how my words have been interpreted > > here is > > > how Reality gets filtered and exaggerated. > > Information > > > is Skimmed, summed and condensed. I'm not saying "I > > > think therefore I am" I'm saying "I am part of a > > complex society > > > therefore I think " therefore I think "I think > > therefore I am" > > > > > > SA: I understand the whole society influences our > > thinking. I understand I'm in a culture. I guess > > that's all your pointing out? > > > > > > > SA previously: > > > I really don't know how to debate > > > against somebody that believes the world is all > > > their in mind.. > > > > > Ron: > > > Not all in the mind, what we perceive is interpreted > > > By the mind. > > > > > > SA: Yes. I think as Marsha's been trying to point > > out. The orientation of the kind of experience is > > what's defining dynamic quality or static quality. > > Each of the SPoV's are experiencing, thus, taking > > another step in the understanding, a step that is not > > mind-centered. > > > > > > > > > Ron: > > > Value is a bridge > > > > > > SA: As Ian pointed out. The seemingly > > counter-experiences of authority and > > questioning-authority, and these two are sourced by > > quality, thus, I believe Ian is using quality, as a > > guide, as a bridge, to understand more the difference > > between the two - something more is happening and the > > bridge will clearly define better than any one part. > > Ian, isn't this what you are driving at? > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
