Matt said: What is an idea if not words? I think the idea that ideas are pre-linguistic is a remnant of SOM.
Krimel said: What are words if not symbols for ideas? I am not at all sure how the notion of pre-linguistic or even a-linguistic ideation is a remnant of SOM. Matt: Well, first think of it this way: I say ideas are words, you say there are ideas _and_ words. In terms of ontology, you have two categories to my one and by Ockham's Razor, choosing the simplest explanation, my single category would win out. That's, naturally, the beginning of a conversation as I'm trying to thrust the burden of proof on you. Why do we _need_ the idea of an "idea" that's distinct from words? [Krimel] Joy, sorrow and disgust are all ideas that can easily and effectively be communicated with or without words. The fact that they both exist and can be communicated in the absence of words suggests that they are ontologically distinct from words. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
