Ron:
But back to your statement, it is difficult for me to imagine the power
Of form without contextual meaning, in all the instances you gave. 
Perhaps going alittle deeper on the subject, I think spacial relations
Differ with geography, mountain folk valuing space differently than
Plainsman or even desert dwellers, gothic cathedrals are reminiscent of
Of open areas in heavily forested regions of visigothic realms. 

[Krimel]
I don't know much about the martial arts but I do think context is one
of
the three determinates of behavior which are genetics, history and
current
context. Certainly geography is a big part of it. Several years ago we
took
a vacation through Indian country. In the Carolinas the Cherokee built
villages nestled into the forest, shaped by streams and the contour of
the
Appalachians. In the Dakotas the terrain varied widely from the plains
to
the mountains to the Badlands and various landmarks were regarded as
sacred.
We climbed to the top of Bear Butte, a deeply spiritual place. Along the
path leading to the top pilgrims left brightly colored tobacco ties as
offerings. I walked with one of my children and I remember being very
quiet
and speaking in hushed tones the whole trip. In the Four Corners area
where
rain is scarce The Hopi mesas are the oldest continuously inhabited
dwellings in North America. There people cluster together in small
villages
and worship in kivas or circular covered pits. It's as though they
sought
refuge from the vast open space within the breast of the earth.


Ron:
I have scolded tourists who take prayer wraps, some sacred areas are
heavily
Traveled such as devils tower. Usually sacred places such as the great
turtle Rock of the Lenape are reference points or areas of gathering. It
gives a connection to the ancestors as well, gathering where they
gathered. It is a connection that straddles both the spirit realm and
our own.

You were in four corners? Get to see mesa Verdi? Out in the badlands of
South Dakota I spent some time at pine ridge. On this same tour I
stopped
At a small bar in burke SD when the gov. checks came in. I hung at the
bar
Early and ate after a long day, the bar was empty that early. I spoke to
the bar keep for quite awhile.
I asked for a good place to camp. She directed me to an old shut down
state park about a mile outside of town. Apparently she told some of 
These fellas a cousin from the east was camping there and they went out
and
Got me at about 11pm. The roared up in an old jeep all drunked up and
told me to get in.
Scared to death I obeyed, spent the night getting stewed and shooting
signs
With these guys from the reservation. THAT was one screwed up night. Fun
But crazy. 




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