Yep, Arlo I'll let you take yet another one of these. The historian in me reels at so much that Platt writes that I have a hard time coming up with anything at all. Funny thing is, I have been here now for a while, and as soon as we hit this area - at any point - all you get from Platt is this radio-talk. Makes me feel like I was living in the 60's. At least someone is.
- Let the words be shouted from the barricades: Real Arguments For All! > [Platt] > After extolling the virtues of "balance" Arlo then proceeds to > present a typical Marxist one-sided view of American economic history. > > [Arlo] > Oh great, the ridiculous talk-radio bullshit right from the start. > Why not say "Arlo The Enemy of Liberty and Freedom", or "Arlo The > Villainous Enslaver of Man"? > > And while I extoll the virtues of balance, I do so by taking Pirsig's > own words on the matter. > > [Platt] > "Political entrepreneurs and their governmental patrons are the real > villains of American business history and should be portrayed as > such. They are the real robber barons." > > [Arlo] > Yes, how dare those robber barons of "guvermint" force the majority > of people to receive fair wages, safe workplaces, and labor rights. > How dare they force the majority of people to accept clean rivers and > toxic chemical dump free communities. Why how evil those guvermint > robber barons are! > > While we all know revisionist history is a popular with you, too many > people know all too well from first or second-generation accounts of > the conditions that existed that prompted the PEOPLE to demand social > regulation. Maybe if the Noble and Virtiuous Meat Kings of Chicago > could have found a way to consider something other than raw profit, > maybe if they had not turned the Chicago River into a coagulated > blood stew, well, maybe you'd have a point. > > No matter how you parse it, social regulation was demanded by the > people in response to the low quality conditions that prevailed. It > was not something forced on the happy people by big, bad guvermint. > > [Platt] > By why bother accurately portraying history or pointing to the > benefits of industrialization if your agenda is to advance socialism? > > [Arlo] > Oh great, more moronic Limbaugh crap. > > [Platt] > That is the reason the major capitalist economies of the world have > done so much better since World War II than the major socialist economies. > > [Arlo] > Since WWII, all "major capitalists economies" have been mixed > economies, all have had minimum wage laws, all have had workplace > safety codes, all have had disposal and pollution regulations, all > have adopted public education, all have had child labor laws. And > yes, the wealth brought by providing openness and the quality of life > brought by social regulations have combined to make Western markets > superior to those employed by Stalinst Russia and Communist China (then). > > You continue to act like you are comparing 1890's America with 1980's > Russia. By 1945, America's markets were balanced. Something I am sure > everyone should be thankful for. > > [Platt] > Marxists can run, but they can't hide. > > [Alro] > What are they holding auditions for a guest-host slot on the Limbaugh > Program? And so we close with more moronic talk-radio crap. Boo! Arlo > is a Marxist! He wants to enslave you and send you all to gulags! > > Boo! Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
