> [Platt] > After extolling the virtues of "balance" Arlo then proceeds to > present a typical Marxist one-sided view of American economic history. > > [Arlo] > Oh great, the ridiculous talk-radio bullshit right from the start. > Why not say "Arlo The Enemy of Liberty and Freedom", or "Arlo The > Villainous Enslaver of Man"?
Of course when you use "fascist neocon" it's OK, but you whine like baby when the crap you dish out is flung back in your face. > And while I extoll the virtues of balance, I do so by taking Pirsig's > own words on the matter. But you don't take his own words on the benefits of free markets. Is it any mystery why? > [Platt] > "Political entrepreneurs and their governmental patrons are the real > villains of American business history and should be portrayed as > such. They are the real robber barons." > > [Arlo] > Yes, how dare those robber barons of "guvermint" force the majority > of people to receive fair wages, safe workplaces, and labor rights. > How dare they force the majority of people to accept clean rivers and > toxic chemical dump free communities. Why how evil those guvermint > robber barons are! Yes, how wonderful are the government robber barons who mandated use of biofuels that has driven up food prices causing food riots in poor countries. And by all means, let's not mention that U.S. taxpayers now spend about 5.4 billion nonproductive hours a year trying to comply with 2,500 pages of tax laws.Your self-proclaimed "balance" is out of whack by a ton. > While we all know revisionist history is a popular with you, too many > people know all too well from first or second-generation accounts of > the conditions that existed that prompted the PEOPLE to demand social > regulation. Maybe if the Noble and Virtiuous Meat Kings of Chicago > could have found a way to consider something other than raw profit, > maybe if they had not turned the Chicago River into a coagulated > blood stew, well, maybe you'd have a point. Maybe if you had a sense of balance at all you would check your history to acknowledge the many benefits of industrialization. But, oh, I forgot. You have no objection to everyone to going naked in the streets. And those who want to cover themselves can damn well make their own clothes like in the Middle Ages. > No matter how you parse it, social regulation was demanded by the > people in response to the low quality conditions that prevailed. It > was not something forced on the happy people by big, bad guvermint. The people have learned that politicians will gladly bestow benefits on them in return for votes. It's call buying votes with other people's money. > [Platt] > By why bother accurately portraying history or pointing to the > benefits of industrialization if your agenda is to advance socialism? > > [Arlo] > Oh great, more moronic Limbaugh crap. Call it whatever you like. But, I see no acknowledgement on your part of any benefits provided by free markets. Yet you claim "balance." Sad. > [Platt] > That is the reason the major capitalist economies of the world have > done so much better since World War II than the major socialist economies. That's a Pirsig quote, not mine. We all know you are not fair and balanced, but now you are not even honest. > [Arlo] > Since WWII, all "major capitalists economies" have been mixed > economies, all have had minimum wage laws, all have had workplace > safety codes, all have had disposal and pollution regulations, all > have adopted public education, all have had child labor laws. And > yes, the wealth brought by providing openness and the quality of life > brought by social regulations have combined to make Western markets > superior to those employed by Stalinst Russia and Communist China (then). > > You continue to act like you are comparing 1890's America with 1980's > Russia. By 1945, America's markets were balanced. Something I am sure > everyone should be thankful for. I"m merely quoting Pirsig,. something you try desperately to ignore. > [Platt] > Marxists can run, but they can't hide. > > [Alro] > What are they holding auditions for a guest-host slot on the Limbaugh > Program? And so we close with more moronic talk-radio crap. Boo! Arlo > is a Marxist! He wants to enslave you and send you all to gulags! Your constant glorification of government interference in free markets shows you leaning so far left as to be nearly horizontal. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
