Marsha quotes:
> "The Prasa?gika Madhyamaka solely avowed technique is
> to show by prasa?ga 
> (or Reductio Ad Absurdum) that any positive assertion
> ("it is", or "it is 
> not") made about - or view proclaimed of - phenomena
> must be regarded as 
> merely conventional (sa?v?ti or lokavyavahara). Therefore
> there is no 
> position that constitutes the ultimate truth (paramartha),
> including the 
> views and statements made by the Prasa?gikas themselves,
> which are held to 
> be solely for the purpose of defeating all views. The
> Prasa?gikas also 
> identify this to be the message of the Buddha who, as
> Nagarjuna put it, 
> taught the Dharma for the purpose of refuting all
> views."
Marsha:
> This is intellect!  See for yourself.



SA:  Sorry, I know I said I wouldn't be able to respond for some time, and it 
is happening, but I couldn't help but leave one more tid bit of what I was 
talking about.  I would have liked to have a longer opportunity, but it seems 
over the years I've been here I've basically repeated myself many times and at 
times it seems nobody either understood me (thus didn't put any effort into 
understanding me) or shrugged me off as this "woods" guy with no philosophy, 
anyways...
     When I keep saying 'art of wild flowers', this is an artful image, one of 
nature and one that I've generated by pointing out the beauty and something 
happening, an effort called art with this wild flowers.  One could say art of 
trees and that's good too.  What your pointing out here Marsha comes close in 
what I'm saying, when I say "still contemplating", isn't that what we do.  We 
don't come up with absolutes, we find something to contemplate, thus, in this 
instance, "still contemplating art of wild flowers" is a mouth full.  The 
intellect is trying to understand this art, but can't fully, thus, the 
intellect is "still contemplating" and this contemplation blooms something 
wild, something here, something original, something in particular in all of 
this earth with sky - a wild flower and it is art, this beauty of this 
occurrence, coming not just of intellect trying to understand this art, this 
image we conceive of, of reality and this image is wild
 and fleeting, static as a flower, here to stare at for some time, notice the 
details in the colorage, the growing from bud to full bloom, and the 
contemplation continues and the image passes as the flower dies in season.  
This is something that is found - a wild flower, in the woods, along the road, 
and the art of this event includes me, includes a bear.  Yet, we are still 
contemplating, so, maybe this next picture in art will be art of fire.  This is 
democracy, sped across these posts many of times, for as the quote above says 
"refuting all views", thus, all of our views are agreed upon, we get somewhere, 
but then we want to contemplate something, exercise our intellect, for as we 
walk, our intellect must walk - it is a do or slowly die situation.  Thus, it 
happens, and so we are still contemplating about this art, an art that is not 
just you, or me, or even just a society, for gravity, all this weight is 
falling, collapsing, and permeating this wild
 flower.  So beautiful, take care, and when this goes away, we can find 
something else to contemplate, and on and on it this does go.


woods,
take care,
SA


      
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