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From: "Mati Palm-Leis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet
Ron,
Ron:I agree that Bodvar's approach points to the distinction but I have to
disagree with his notion that the s/o divide is a universal human
condition.
He does point to Western cultures specific distinction of it's own
intellectual level with out a doubt.
Mati: Well I am glad we are in half agreement, but I am unaware in the
Eastern Culture in the Historical period of 500 B.C. (give or take a
hundred
years) that provide a different form of intellect that broke away from the
social level as decisive as the SOM. As I noted in my post to Ian, if you
observe modern day research methologies in the eastern cultures they
likely
teather themselves to the S/O split (SOM) because, I believe, because it
was
the most effective means to define reality in a research environment. If
the Eastern philosophical tradition was able to define reality in a more
effective means I would suggest that would be a) incorporated already or
b)
displaced SOM or c) we would be studying them in the western world.
As a side note Zen Buddhism as a whole rejects intellect as a means for
greater understanding yet there is a common notion that perhaps Buddhism
is
a different form of intellect. It is what it is.
Don't be arrogant, or naive, or both. Or lazy.
"The Prasa?gika Madhyamaka solely avowed technique is to show by prasa?ga
(or Reductio Ad Absurdum) that any positive assertion ("it is", or "it is
not") made about - or view proclaimed of - phenomena must be regarded as
merely conventional (sa?v?ti or lokavyavahara). Therefore there is no
position that constitutes the ultimate truth (paramartha), including the
views and statements made by the Prasa?gikas themselves, which are held to
be solely for the purpose of defeating all views. The Prasa?gikas also
identify this to be the message of the Buddha who, as Nagarjuna put it,
taught the Dharma for the purpose of refuting all views."
This is intellect! See for yourself.
Marsha
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