Mati :
I have read Lila and much of Pirsig's work and am very familiar with what Lila has to say about some of these questions in a general context. Yet in Pirsig's letter to Paul Turner he seems to have made his final contribution to this question. In a private final correspondence with him long ago, about a research question related to this very question of intellectual values, he more or less has hung his hat his letter to Paul Turner in his addressing the intellectual level. That being said, and with the deepest sense of respect and gratitude for Mr. Pirsig, I feel that we have failed to really move forward on this question. Again I think Bodvar's approach, begins to provide the capacity to approach these, I believe, essential questions. Thus providing us with the capacity to move MOQ forward. Sincerely, Mati Ron: Hello Mati, I agree that Bodvar's approach points to the distinction but I have to disagree with his notion that the s/o divide is a universal human condition. He does point to Western cultures specific distinction of it's own intellectual level with out a doubt. I think the best way of defining an intellectual level is by how a culture describes it. Clearly this is representational of the levels, with intellect being emergent from the society. There is no universal society therefore no universal definition of the intellectual level. This then falls rightly with your line of questioning above and agrees with the MoQ description as a whole. The s/o divide is the intellectual level for western culture. Intellect in western culture is defined by analytical thinking. analytical thinking predicates itself on the s/o distinction as layed out by Aristotles axioms of analytical logic. To make the distinction between that which is measurable is measurable and that which is not, is not. This will move things fore ward. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
