[Ham] I give up trying to discuss this sensibly with people... [Arlo] Discuss? Sensibly? All you done to date is make a claim that the "destruction of America" will follow "as our population turn Hispanic".
The ONLY backing you've given this is (1) signs and telephone books will have to be printed in two languages and (2) your children may have to learn another language. Apart from that all you've done is parroted the same insipid empty phrases from talk-radio "loss of Judeo-Christian value", "values indiginous to American culture", hate-crimes, etc. So please, tell me "sensibly" what "Judeo-Christian values" will disappear "as our culture turns Hispanic"? Cause I gotta tell you Ham, I've traveled a bit in Hispania, and those people are rabid Christians, Catholics mostly, to be sure, and not Evangelicals. Is THAT what gets your goat? And I am still waiting in wonder as to what "indiginous values of America culture" will disappear, and what Hispanic culture will replace them with? So you can quote, in length, empty articles that do no more than make these same empty threats about "diversity" and "big bad multicultrulism", that do nothing more than trump up a "fear" and are void of any substantive ideas on how or why the destruction of America comes "as our population turns Hispanic". But I am sure as hell you won't, you'll use the same distortive, deceptive bunk as is always used, to pretend you've actually said something and then boo-hoo a bit about the bit, bad libs and how you can't talk sensibly with them. So again, I ask, what "Judeo-Christian values" will disappear "as our culture turns Hispanic"? What "indiginous values of America culture" will disappear, and what Hispanic culture will replace them with? Or is it really just all about seeing traffic signs in two-languages? By the way, this same sort of paranoic fear and "diversity destroying America" goes all the way to Benjamin Franklin, who complained about the mongrel hordes of Germans invading our land... ""Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation…and as few of the English understand the German Language, and so cannot address them either from the Press or Pulpit, ’tis almost impossible to remove any prejudices they once entertain…Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it…I remember when they modestly declined intermeddling in our Elections, but now they come in droves, and carry all before them, except in one or two Counties...In short unless the stream of their importation could be turned from this to other colonies, as you very judiciously propose, they will soon so out number us, that all the advantages we have will not in My Opinion be able to preserve our language, and even our Government will become precarious." (Franklin) "Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion. Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind. " (Franklin) Love the part "why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People?" Think that about sums up all you are saying in one fell swoop, doesn't it? Franklin at least had the balls to say it. What's FUNNY is that Franklin LOVED the Indian, and includes the "red-skinned" along with the "white-skinned" as "Superior Beings"! Love that! But to hell with the dark, swarthy and tawny inferior lessers. Sounds like modern-day talk-show pundits are guilty of a little plagiarism... Well, except you guys dropped the "red-skinned" from the Superior Beings list. Franklin would be pissed. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
