dmb says to Andre:
Yes, static quality is patterned and Dynamic Quality is not patterned. But
this doesn't mean that concepts (SPOV) are unreal. In the art gallery
analogy, where we can look at a variety of sets of static patterns, all the
paintings are equally real. If you were to pick one and say that it's the
real one while the others aren't, that would be an illusion. It's illusory
in the sense that you'd be taking derived concepts as more real than the
reality from which they were derived. I suppose your question arises from
something like that.

Andre:
Bear with me please dmb, I am trodding ground I am not used to trodding:

So the MoQ as a 'derived conceptual framework' is not different from the
reality (DQ/SQ) it describes?

If you agree with this, then what is language as a pattern of value (both
spoken and written)? Does it exist in an 'objective/subjective' sense (as
SOM would have it) or does the MoQ challenge this? If so,in what way?

Is this a ligitimate line of questioning or not (in the sense that; "Am I
going wacko now?")

Am very interested to hear your (and anyone's) views on this.

Andre
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