[Andre] Okay Arlo, you're pressing me for a reaction. [Arlo] I'm not pressing you. I think there is good dialogue to be had here.
[Andre] DQ brings nothing about. People's responses to DQ bring things about. [Arlo] I'll stop you here, say I agree, but I'd add.... "Everything's responses to DQ bring things about". This is the point I was trying to make with the airplane. The inorganic components of the plane WERE responding to DQ, only from their vantage and repertoire. What we could see this (and all events) as are the conflicts between all things responding with varying repertoires to DQ. Take the black death, an instance where bacteria, following their own repertoire of responding to DQ wiped out around half of Europe's population. This is an instance where there was a conflict between bacteria and people, both responding to DQ in their own way. The MOQ says its moral for people to win that conflict (to eradicate the bacteria), and I'd agree, but notice that "DQ", if anything, is wholly ambivalent about the survival of humans. If another rogue asteroid causes the extinction of the human race "DQ" is involved only as the force that, inorganically, the asteroid was responding to. [Andre] Look at the soul searching inside the NASA organisation after the disaster with the Challenger. This has nothing to do with DQ it had everything to do with shutting out DQ... [Arlo] I'd say that the steel and fuel molecules and inorganic components of the shuttle and rocket responded to DQ (from their inorganic repertoire of probability) every step of the way. The rocket did not crash because of a neglect of DQ, it failed because the inorganic components of the rocket were allowed to MUCH response to DQ. The intellectual (and social, and biological) components of this flight depended precisely on ensuring that the inorganic components of the rocket had NO room to behave any differently than planned. When that failed, and the atoms and whatnot composing the rocket were "freed" from their prison, they responded to DQ in a way that caused a conflict between them and the intellectual-social-biological components, and the inorganic components won. Anyway, that's my take on it. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
