> [Andre] > Okay Arlo, you're pressing me for a reaction. > > [Arlo] > I'm not pressing you. I think there is good dialogue to be had here. > > [Andre] > DQ brings nothing about. People's responses to DQ bring things about. > > [Arlo] > I'll stop you here, say I agree, but I'd add.... "Everything's responses > to DQ > bring things about". This is the point I was trying to make with the > airplane. > The inorganic components of the plane WERE responding to DQ, only from > their > vantage and repertoire. What we could see this (and all events) as are > the > conflicts between all things responding with varying repertoires to DQ. > > Take the black death, an instance where bacteria, following their own > repertoire of responding to DQ wiped out around half of Europe's > population. > This is an instance where there was a conflict between bacteria and > people, > both responding to DQ in their own way. The MOQ says its moral for people > to > win that conflict (to eradicate the bacteria), and I'd agree, but notice > that > "DQ", if anything, is wholly ambivalent about the survival of humans. If > another rogue asteroid causes the extinction of the human race "DQ" is > involved > only as the force that, inorganically, the asteroid was responding to. > > [Andre] > Look at the soul searching inside the NASA organisation after the disaster > with > the Challenger. This has nothing to do with DQ it had everything to do > with > shutting out DQ... > > [Arlo] > I'd say that the steel and fuel molecules and inorganic components of > the > shuttle and rocket responded to DQ (from their inorganic repertoire of > probability) every step of the way. The rocket did not crash because of > a > neglect of DQ, it failed because the inorganic components of the rocket > were > allowed to MUCH response to DQ. The intellectual (and social, and > biological) > components of this flight depended precisely on ensuring that the > inorganic > components of the rocket had NO room to behave any differently than > planned. > When that failed, and the atoms and whatnot composing the rocket were > "freed" > from their prison, they responded to DQ in a way that caused a conflict > between > them and the intellectual-social-biological components, and the > inorganic > components won. > > Anyway, that's my take on it.
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