Arlo to Andre: No, I think we are on the same page. We probably just use the word "chance" differently, but I think we mean the same thing.
Andre: Agree, and do think we do not differ that much.There are many ways leading to Rome. Arlo By the way, this makes me a bit curious. Is English your "native" language (the socio-linguist in me HATES this designation, but I'll use it for convenience)? Andre; Mei you wenti (Chinese for 'no problem'). If, by 'is English your native language', you mean: were you born 'in' it? I'd have to say No. Born and raised in Holland, this gave me the Dutch language plus a dialect thereof. I learned Dutch 'proper' at school. But from a fairly early age never felt 'at home' with this language ...enjoyed English much more (being brought up with the Beatles and the '60's generally must have had a lot to do with this). Academically, my Dutch never reached much beyond highschool but I went to Australia, on my own, when I was 19 and there, after various odd jobs, went to Uni (I have 2 degrees). So, academically, my English is of a much higher level than my Dutch. Problem I have is that, since the Dutch always put people into 'boxes', my English, which is in many ways better than the average native speaker, is not recognised (by e.g. language schools) because I have not been born in an English speaking country. In other words, you cannot be a native speaker because ..... . Doesn't help with the job search. Arlo; What is the Dutch word (and cultural associations) for "chance"? I know the concept of "luck" is one that does not map precisely into German, was wondering if "chance" was the same? Andre: The Dutch word for chance (kans) is very similar to the way we have been talking about it here Arlo. It also carries connotations of 'probability' , 'possibility' etc. The lottery, for example is a 'kansspel', a game of chance. The concept of 'luck' is very different. Its meaning is more like 'fortunate' in the sense of: when you win the lottery you have 'geluk' (you have luck). Or when you have survived an accident you have had much 'geluk'.(you've been lucky). Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
