hey matt, reminds me of the old hindu or buddhist quote about maya - similar lines - a student asking about whether a stampeding elephant is essentially illusory - the reply being yes but you had still better get out of the way because you are part of the same illusion.
you don't make up the fiction of the world. to think you make it up is SOM. the subject and object are both abstracted fictions. yes the world is a fiction but that is not to say unreal - quite the opposite. --- On Mon, 8/3/10, Matt Kundert <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Matt Kundert <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] continental and analytic philosophy > To: [email protected] > Received: Monday, 8 March, 2010, 9:14 AM > > Hey gav, > > The only downside with some of the rhetoric produced by > some (usually French) Continental philosophers is the > misleading connotations produced by the march of meanings of > words. For instance, "fiction"--while it punches up > the antithesis to realist/Platonic talk about an immutable > "found" world (talk Foucault and Derrida were apt to use, > too), I think at a certain point it loses its currency: I > didn't "make up" the tiger that's eating me. > > But, going back to the Greek term poiesis, making, does > punch up something right about the kind of consciousness > peculiar to homo sapien, reflected in Nietzsche's slogan > that truth is a mobile army of metaphors, metonymies, and > anthropomorphisms. > > Matt > > > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 02:28:16 -0800 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [MD] continental and analytic philosophy > > > > been thinking about the differing approaches to > philosophy that these traditions use...seems v relevant to > what's going on here - think the disputes arising here > illuminate an epistemological divide along these lines. > > > > been reading about deleuze and getting a lot out > of him: > > > > '[deleuze] argue that the human subject and its stable > outside world was a fiction produced within the flow of > experience - "the world (continuity and distinction) is an > outright fiction of the imagination"' > > > > > > perfect correlation... > > > > the word 'fiction' here is key > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
