Mary, Just a very brief reply and then to sleep. The idea in your that this God stuff isn't too thought out reveals an important difference between the Christian and the Moq, and many other world views.
If I get a chance I want to start a thread on eoq tomorrow. But the Christian view is that God reveals truth to his creatures. Man and his reason does not and cannot legislate reality. Man's and his autonomous reason is not the starting point for the Christian. This is why Paul when addressing the Greeks at the Aeropagus said that the gospel was "foolishness to the Greeks". I'd like to share with you what Cornelius van Till says of this, but it will have to wait. But this difference is quite crucial for giving you the rights you have. If man gave rights, he could take them away. The whole idea of an unalieanble right, is that it is from God, that's why it most be acknowledged in and protected by law. And the Christian position is that this is the source of knowledge, God's revealed truth. And that makes a very crucial difference in our epistemologies, and it is why Christian philosophy is so radically different than those that start with man and his autonomous reasong as absolute. Nighty Nite, Jon On Wed, Apr 'k1, 2010 at 11:56 PnoM, Mary <[email protected]> wrote: > [Jon said] > You have freedom, even the freedom to read these words, not because you > were > envisioned as a static pattern continually being transformed by a dynamic > pattern. This includes the freedom not to be arrested at will, dragged from > your house and imprisoned or tortured for your thoughts and speech-and all > the other freedoms and rights you enjoy and take for granted. These rights > did not arise and were not acknowledged in the East where moq ideas were > prevalent. > > You have these freedoms because you were seen as created in the very image > of God. And you were endowed by your Creator with these rights because your > life was seen as sacred. Not a static, certainly not a dynamic pattern, but > a child of the living God. That is the source of freedom, personal and > political. > > [Mary Replies] > Well, thank God for that! Funny how a higher level can use the givens of a > lower level to go off on purposes of its own. Really glad of that too, > since I wouldn't like to have to get up early on Sunday's to go to an > institution. Do you ever get the idea this God stuff was not thought out > too well? I mean, I'm not sure all this freedom was what was intended. > But > hey, I'll take what I can get! > > Thanks, > Mary > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
