Hi Jon, I guess I "choose" not to participate in this conversation. It makes me tired. There's no point arguing with someone who is convinced by faith. DMB, what did you say recently that I like so much? You can't argue with people who are not persuadable by argument? Something like that. You know what evil is? That which seeks to destroy the Levels upon which it depends for its existence. That's all. No booger with horns that comes from an imaginary hot place.
Mary - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:moq_discuss- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Bennett > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] The Roots of Freedom > > Hi Mary, > > It was meant to be freedom withing certain bounds. But we are free > creatures > and can choose good or evil. > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Mary <[email protected]> wrote: > > > [Jon said] > > You have freedom, even the freedom to read these words, not because > you > > were > > envisioned as a static pattern continually being transformed by a > dynamic > > pattern. This includes the freedom not to be arrested at will, > dragged from > > your house and imprisoned or tortured for your thoughts and speech- > and all > > the other freedoms and rights you enjoy and take for granted. These > rights > > did not arise and were not acknowledged in the East where moq ideas > were > > prevalent. > > > > You have these freedoms because you were seen as created in the very > image > > of God. And you were endowed by your Creator with these rights > because your > > life was seen as sacred. Not a static, certainly not a dynamic > pattern, but > > a child of the living God. That is the source of freedom, personal > and > > political. > > > > [Mary Replies] > > Well, thank God for that! Funny how a higher level can use the > givens of a > > lower level to go off on purposes of its own. Really glad of that > too, > > since I wouldn't like to have to get up early on Sunday's to go to an > > institution. Do you ever get the idea this God stuff was not thought > out > > too well? I mean, I'm not sure all this freedom was what was > intended. > > But > > hey, I'll take what I can get! > > > > Thanks, > > Mary > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
