John, What do you mean by religious thinking? I have told you I am quite comfortable with the Tom Robbins quote.
Marsha On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, John Carl wrote: > Marsha the evasive, > > >> >>> The first question is: >>> >>> Have you Marsha, ever considered the GOOD effects of >>> overcoming religious thinking in your intellectual development? >> >> Consider? Do you mean systematically, like reading the Great Books? >> No, I've never formally considered my intellectual development. >> >> > Me neither. I bought a set at a yard sale. Cheap. And often thought about > reading them. > > That's what I call intellectual development, thinking about thinking about > thinking. > > > > >> >>> The second is related: >>> >>> Whether or not the passing on of this pattern to our children is >> "giving >>> them the answer" without letting them work it out for themselves and thus >> a >>> sort of intellectual crippling with unforseen results? >> >> "The social values are right only if the individual values are right. >> The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and >> head and hands, and then work outward from there. Other >> people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. >> I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what >> I have to say has more lasting value." >> (ZMM, Chapter 25) >> >> > well obviously the author talked about a lot more than merely fixing > motorcycles. I'd say for starters he's talking about talking about fixing > motorcycles in the passage quoted. > > If he'd really just "wanted" to talk about motorcycles then he'd have done > so exclusively. > > And all those confused book store clerks and librarians who stocked ZAMM on > the auto maintenance sections wouldn't have been so far off. > > But you know all that. You're just being evasive. You're fully aware that > the motorcycle under discussion is the motorcycle known as your intellectual > self. > > > > >> >> >>> I admit its a tricky question but no psychological manipulation is >>> intended. >> >> Maybe you think I'll be more, um, um, receptive? >> >> > > That was my ploy. I see it won't work. > > > >> >>> Just a simply enquiry into social and intellectual values, is all. >>> >>> Love, >> >> Am I suppose to be able to resist love? >> >> > > > Where there's life there's choice. Where there's choice there's hope. > Where there's hope there's love. > > So no, I guess you weren't. > > But please feel free. > > Nobody ever accused me of confusing my is and my ought! > > > And now I'll leave you alone from my pesky questions before you have to say > "fuck your questions!" > > Admiringly, > > John > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
