Adrie, In my definition, intellectual patterns of value are still patterns of value, all value, they are still conceptually constructed. I am describing how they function.
Marsha On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: > Yes , Dave , this is opening the toolbox of the moq, this is showing us the > tools inside , this is the core. > You arrived at the point as where Pheadrus is reading back James's books in > the end of LILA, aware of the fact that he found the grail > He arrived at the secret of the Giant so to speak. The expirience itself as > entity, Quality. > Best ever , Dave i'll print it.Thanks. > > 2010/9/18 david buchanan <[email protected]> > >> >> Marsha's definition: >> Within the MoQ, fourth level, the Intellectual Level, is comprised of >> intellectual static patterns of value. The way that these patterns function >> is as reified concepts and the rules for their rational analysis and >> manipulation. Reification decontextualizes. Intellectual patterns process >> from a subject/object conceptual framework creating false boundaries that >> give the illusion of independence as a “thing” or an “object of analysis.” >> The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), where the >> paramount demand is for rational, objective knowledge, which is free from >> the taint of any subjectivity. >> >> >> dmb's alternative: >> >> According to the MOQ, the intellectual level includes all intellectual >> static patterns and all intellectual thought styles, such as classical and >> romantic for example. These patterns are derived from experience and their >> veracity depends on their ability to function in experience. The MOQ's >> reconceptualization of the intellect is predicated on a rejection of >> subject-object metaphysics, the conceptual framework that reifies subjects >> and objects. (The MOQ says subjects and objects are concepts, not entities.) >> Unlike SOM, where the paramount demand is for objectivity and disinterested >> observation, the MOQ's fourth level gives us an expanded form of rationality >> that includes feelings, passions, alternate modes of consciousness and all >> the other categories of experience formerly dismissed as "merely" >> subjective. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > > > -- > parser > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
